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Pillanious

Feb 16 2012, 01:06 AM

I was playing around with the tags a little bit, and I've apparently been misreading the <hp dmg taken: x%> and <mp dmg taken x%> tags. I assumed the latter meant "if damage taken is as a result of mp being used, modify it by x percent" - however, it seems that said tag is actually referring to damage done to the target's MP.

I'm wondering if anyone's aware of a tag to simply reduce damage done via. magic, and not just HP damage in general? It seems like it should be extremely obvious, but I haven't stumbled across it as of yet.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

To clarify - What I'm trying to create is a "Shell" sort of spell, that reduces magic damage taken by 50% - as well as a 'protect' sort of spell that reduces physical damage taken by 50%.

It seems like I'll need a separate tag for both

heisenman

Feb 16 2012, 01:26 AM

QUOTE

I'm wondering if anyone's aware of a tag to simply reduce damage done via. magic, and not just HP damage in general? It seems like it should be extremely obvious, but I haven't stumbled across it as of yet.

Use Resistance tags, no?
<res: +25>

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To clarify - What I'm trying to create is a "Shell" sort of spell

Mmh Shell is a status not a spell, so put the tag in the status' notebox, not the skill's.

Pillanious

Feb 16 2012, 01:36 AM

QUOTE (heisenman @ Feb 16 2012, 04:26 AM)

QUOTE

Use Resistance tags, no?
<res: +25>

QUOTE

To clarify - What I'm trying to create is a "Shell" sort of spell

Mmh Shell is a status not a spell, so put the tag in the status' notebox, not the skill's.

Ahh, my fault for mis-explaining - apparently the fatigue is catching up with me.

I did place the tag in the status notebox - and <res: +25> doesn't quite do what I want it to.

Essentially I'm wanting to reduce all magical damage by 50% with one spell (shell) and all physical with another (protect). So a tag such as (for example) <physical dmg: -50%> and <magical dmg: -50%> would come to mind. Of course, I'm not exactly sure how to add such a tag - and therein lies the problem. Boosting the RES stat by 25 isn't a 25% reduction when some characters have, say, 90 RES - and others have 250.

heisenman

Feb 16 2012, 01:46 AM

Don't those tags works with percentages as well? Something like <res: +50%>?

Pillanious

Feb 16 2012, 01:59 AM

QUOTE (heisenman @ Feb 16 2012, 04:46 AM)

Don't those tags works with percentages as well? Something like <res: +50%>?

Aye, they do - but that poses two other problems.

For example: Let's say you deal 350 damage with a spell to a monster with ~480 Res.

Increasing that RES by 50% does not decrease the damage by 50%, as resistance follows a similar formula to atk/def (4*atk - 2*def = dmg) (2*spi - 1*res = dmg).

Therefore (citing another example) (2*125) - (1*62) = 188, but if we bolstered that res by 50%... we'd have (in essence) (2*125) - (1.5*62) = 157 - which is not anywhere near a 50% damage reduction.

This also poses a problem when the target reaches 999 RES. Because that's the stat cap, once you exceed a certain base RES, the spell becomes completely worthless - As well, if the status boosts the target's res too high, it causes all magical damage to be nullified: which isn't something I want to happen

I suppose another option would be to change the formula so that res caps at 100, and each point of res is a strict 1% damage reduction... but I think there has to be a simpler way to do things.

heisenman

Feb 16 2012, 02:20 AM

Mmh you're right, I misunderstood your request :/
I don't have VX at the moment I don't remember if there were other tags to specifically affect incoming magic damage...

I think giving magic skills a neutral magic element and then setting the state to decrease the damage dealt by that element might be an inelegant solution?

Pillanious

Feb 16 2012, 02:23 AM

Created my own melody tag that seems to work perfectly.

I attached it below for anyone else that wants it - and I'll throw it into the script submissions forum as well

CODE

     #------------------------------------------------------------------------
      #<react effect: <(string) shell x%>
      # - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -
      #This causes <stat> damage to be reduced to X percent
      #---Example --- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      #<react effect: spi shell 50%>
      #<react effect: atk shell 50%>
      #-----------------------------------------------------------------------
      when /(.*)[ ]SHELL[ ](\d+)([%ï¼…])/i
         percent = $2.to_i
          case $1.upcase
          when "ATK"; if atkstat = atk
                      @hp_damage = @hp_damage * percent / 100
                      end
          when "SPI"; if atkstat = spi
                      @hp_damage = @hp_damage * percent / 100
                      end
          when "RES"
            next unless $imported["RES Stat"]
                      if atkstat = res
                      @hp_damage = @hp_damage * percent / 100
                      end
          when "DEX"
            next unless $imported["RES Stat"]
                      if atkstat = dex
                      @hp_damage = @hp_damage * percent / 100
                      end
          when "AGI"; if atkstat = agi
                      @hp_damage = @hp_damage * percent / 100
                      end
          else; next
          end
          damage = @hp_damage

The only state for which I couldn't get it to work was DEF. Gave me a syntax error whenever I tried using "if atkstat = def". All-in-all, though, I'm pretty happy I figured it out

~ This is solved, by the way - so please feel free to close it at will

heisenman

Feb 16 2012, 06:01 AM

I'm glad you found a solution (:

CODE

when /(.*)[ ]SHELL[ ](\d+)([%ï¿½ï¿½â€¦])/i

I think there's a little pasting error here.

Kread-EX

Feb 16 2012, 09:06 AM

Closed as per request.

Kread-EX

Feb 16 2012, 12:48 PM

Re-opened by request.

Pillanious

Feb 16 2012, 12:50 PM

QUOTE (Kread-EX @ Feb 16 2012, 03:48 PM)

Re-opened by request.

Thank you, Kread!

CODE

#------------------------------------------------------------------------
#<react effect: <phrase shell x%>
# - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - -
#This causes SPI damage to be reduced to X percent.
#---Example --- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
#<react effect: spi shell 50%>
#<react effect: atk shell 80%>
#-----------------------------------------------------------------------
when /(.*)[ ]SHELL[ ](\d+)([％%])/i
percent = $2.to_i
case $1.upcase
when "ATK"; if atkstat = atk
@hp_damage = @hp_damage * percent / 100
end
when "SPI"; if atkstat = spi
@hp_damage = @hp_damage * percent / 100
end
when "RES"
next unless $imported["RES Stat"]
if atkstat = res
@hp_damage = @hp_damage * percent / 100
end
when "DEX"
next unless $imported["RES Stat"]
if atkstat = dex
@hp_damage = @hp_damage * percent / 100
end
when "AGI"; if atkstat = agi
@hp_damage = @hp_damage * percent / 100
end
else; next
end
damage = @hp_damage

Above is the notetag on which I've been working so far.

The tag works - except that regardless of the method by which the damage is dealt, it's reducing it by the percentage selected.

It's basically ignoring the (for example) "when "SPI"; if atkstat = spi" statement.

Does anyone have any suggestions, perhaps? I'd assume there's a different string required to define the stat used by the incoming attack that I'm not aware of

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