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Spirit_Master_X
Alright here is the story.

There was this girl I was dating back in high school. It almost seemed like we had the perfect relationship...until my friend told me that he caught her holding hands with another guy down the hall...I broke up with her after that...She approached me on lunch one time and asked if my friend had told me that...I just walked away. That was in the past.

In present day, post high school, she is doing pretty good for herself. We recently started talking on facebook...I haven't heard from her, called her, or even seen her in person since high school. I sent her the message saying "hey, long time no see" and she is shocked because she haven't seen me in forever, "OMG!!! HOW YOU BEEN???!!!" I asked her how she been, then she says she will talk to me later because she had to go to work. I said ok, just talk to me when you get off. COOL.
Later that night she sends me a message saying that she was home, but had to study for college exams. She mistakenly says "I'll call you back Friday" when she really mean to say "I'll talk to you Friday" which was the next day. COOL.
I tried to throw a little humor in there...I said..."Your boyfriend would probably get mad if you called me anyway" then she replies saying that she was single.
I told her..."You could've fooled me."
Couple days later, I brought up why we broke up...I don't know why I just did...She basically went on saying how girls was spreading lies about her because they were jealous of how she looked, and that she rather likes to hang with guys than girls because according to her, guys don't start as much drama as girls. Then she goes on to say that I believed in that "lie" about her, which led to the breakup.
I apologized to her, and told her that trust was a big issue for everyone out there in school. Especially nowadays, could she really blame me?
I told her that was all in the past and that I didn't lose any sleep over it or anything.

Couple days later I'm thinking that I fucked up, right? She sends me a message saying that she seen my sister working at Subway when she went in there that morning. I replied with a little humor, nothing too important to type here. She didn't reply after the humor.

Couple days later on facebook I see someone who had her last name, so I'm thinking she has a sister. I sent her a message asking if she had a sister and she corrected me and instead told me that the girl was her cousin. That was it really.

Couple days later in the instant message I said, "You always changing your profile picture" and she was like..."Shut up! Why you been paying attention?" then I told her that it was hard to ignore the news feed when its in your face everyday...she told me to shut up again in a playful way. Then I noticed that she takes her pictures by herself ALL the time, so I told her that it would affect her self-conscious rating if she takes pictures by herself all the time...which is partially true right? Anyway, she tells me how she is independent and whatnot.
She logged soon after, so I was forced to send my next text message as a regular one.
This is my quote exactly...
"Well, I guess that explains why its hard to talk to you sometimes (because of her independence) There is nothing wrong with being a lone wolf though, but even Jesus needed help." end quote.
I haven't heard from her after that, so I decided to spill some truth on her. Couple days later I send her this exact post:

"Thanks to you, I suddenly became interested in researching the statistics of an "independent woman" what I found out was that 75% of women in America are depicted as hoes. 25% are independent. 15% of independent women enjoys life on their own, without being aware that there is something that makes their life incomplete. The rest of the 10% doesn't care, and would rather abuse it, by making a guy feel unwanted. Most men find independence in women a turn-off, but it's really a good thing. It's funny."

She replies saying how she feels criticized. This is her exact post:

"I'm starting to feel really criticized. I must be the "25%" I'm sexy, got a nice figure and going to school guys tell me all the time "girl u got it going on.'' I don't need no male to help me and most guys do like. Well at lest the ones I know they think that's SEXY. So I think it's "FUNNY'' how your statistics is wrong. Yeah every girl differs in her on way but this is my way boo. B/C the guy I'm seeing says he loves a INDEPENDENT women. I'm not a hoe, I love my life. And yes I will make it in the long run we will see how laughs last. NOW THAT'S FUUUNNNYYYY. smile.gif I thank you for finally doing a lil studyin.... of something I already knew about my self. Gotta love it. All eyes on me BABY"

I told her that I wasn't criticizing her, and those weren't my statistics. That it was a known fact in American society that most people are too naive to understand. I told her that independent women are the ones that you fall in love with, and I didn't know how she found that offensive and that it was a compliment. She started to apologize saying how so many people was hating on her, that she didn't know how to take a compliment anymore.
I told her that I was one of the very few who understood her and that everything that I do and say...people will find offensive because I live on the "other side of reality" I told her there was no need to apologize because I will always be misunderstand.
She basically apologizes again and says that she always has her guard up and whatnot. I told her not to apologize again and how I try to help people mentally, then I told her bye. She replies saying wait, I didn't mean to hurt you" thats the end of that.

Days later I saw her on the instant messenger so I asked how she was doing. This was today actually. She says she has a lot on her mind and I told her I was willing to listen. She asks me why men are dogs and I told her because most guys follow the trend that most other guys follow (not all guys of course, they know who they are) anyway...she tells me that she had sex with a guy whom she known for a month the night before...and how he was suppose to call her, but instead sent her a message saying how he was tired from all the heat. She asks..."He doesn't want to talk to me does he?" To much of my disdain, I tried to offer my help by saying...just ask him if it was just sex, or if it was something more. She says he hasn't replied yet, since his message the night before. I told her that I cant really speak for the guy, I can only speak for what I would and wouldn't do...and that she got played. She believes so as well. Then she asks me about my day, I tell her which really isn't that important, then she asks how my sister was doing, and blah blah blah all the rest then I told her I was going to go outside, nice talking to ya, it was relieving somehow. She said ok...COOL.

Came back in and asked if the she and the guy talked, she said he hasn't sent her a message yet. I ask her "Well...what are you going to do?" she said that "idk damn" following with "I didn't mean to say that..."
I told her that she didn't need him, and how the guy didn't know what he was missing out on.
She was like..."Ha Ha yeah right"
I told her that I was serious and how hard it was to find a girl who is smart and doesn't use her tits to get kicks.

The end.

-Sigh- I don't know...This girl drives me nuts but...she is so...cool to me, she intrigues me so much...I don't know what the hell is wrong with me.

What do you guys think about all of that? am I stupid? or do you guys see this heading into a relationship? Also, sorry for the long post but I have to get this off my mind before I kill myself.
X-M-O
Hmm... if you want my upfront opinion, I'd say that ship has sailed and she's moved on. She is friendly towards you, but I've got the feeling that is all.
You may be able to work at the relationship a little in order to eventually be in a relationship with her, however it doesn't look like it would be an easy task - especially considering the fact that she doesn't appear to be looking for anything long-lasting.
At this point, you may consider just remaining friends with her, and holding back the urge that you may have to get closer to her. If you play your cards right, you could end up being involved with her in a way that you really want to be, however I would warn you that she appears as if she could be several years from becoming interested in a permanent relationship. (Depending on whether or not that is something you are even looking for.)

If you are looking to have a short relationship with her, that seems to be an easy task. Just know that she is independent and she will likely be disinterested in keeping it as long as you might be.


I've had a few situations surprisingly similar to what you describe, and I have always made the choice to simply be friends with them and I never get involved with them (I'm always glad to make that choice, and in your case I would make the choice again).
In other words, if I were you I would maintain a decent level of friendship with her, but never look to her for anything serious.
(That's just me though, you can try your luck as I mentioned previously.) =]
Spirit_Master_X
Damnit X,,,-Sigh- I know man...I know...You're right man...It just feels like...if I cant keep in touch with her then my whole life is over.
Acewing
QUOTE (Spirit_Master_X @ Jun 3 2011, 12:05 AM) *
Alright here is the story.

There was this girl I was dating back in high school. It almost seemed like we had the perfect relationship...until my friend told me that he caught her holding hands with another guy down the hall...I broke up with her after that...She approached me on lunch one time and asked if my friend had told me that...I just walked away. That was in the past.



I'm sorry but may you elaborate on this a tad more? How were you certain that hear-say was truth set in stone and why did you decide to leave without acquiring atleast the other half of the story or did her opinion not matter at all at that point?
Spirit_Master_X
I don't know man...goddamnit...I don't fucking know.

Man screw this, somebody delete this topic, please? X told me all I needed to know.

Shits done man. Best Musician my ass. I fucked up...point blank. For real though, lock this up.
obsorber
Man yeah it is your own fault by the way. Its hard to believe people in the pathetic society we live in. No one trusts anyone anymore because everyone lies and cheats now days. You landed on a gold mine, you found the perfect girl and pretty much blew it. From now on take this as a lesson, don't listen to everything you hear. People are always spreading rumours about people they are jealous off. Really and she seems strong willed and independent easy for any girl to be jealous of. Its painful to me that girls who are actually worth the hassle have to suffer and girls who are the hoes deliberately try to ruin things for them. Most guys who are assholes don't want to get with them because they are stronger than them and they know if they do they won't take the shit. The decent guys are led a stray generally by gossip instead of really believing the girl if she's decent. It's not completely your fault but it is partially. She'll probably get into future relationships now but will find it hard to fully submit herself to her partner always feeling that they will probably leave her eventually anyway due to what she has endured. Tell her that you still care about her and that you are so sorry for being a dipshit. No offence but you need to tell her that her personality intrigues you and if you are afraid then you are no man and you need to grow some balls.

I'm so pissed off with myself. I've failed to pick up on signals given to me by girls who I would regard as the perfect partner which depresses me. Before when a girl looked at me and saw me for who I was I was always thinking what the fuck you looking at me for like that? But then again I was always kind of pissed off with people in general so I never took notice off signals. Now I know how girls partially think, I won't end up with the wrong one because I've always ended up with the users/manipulators/attention seeking girls who couldn't care about anyone or anything but themselves and their status. These kind of girls just want to snog you in public and show the world how they have power and popularity. You can tell because they won't want to spend much time with you alone, they'll want to see you when it always suits them as well. I'm not having a go at you, just relating your experience with my own stupidity.
Spirit_Master_X
Sorry I blew at you guys.
Yeah, it was my fault.

@Acewing
Not sure why I walked away man.

@obsorber
Yeah I know. Thanks man. I sent her a message this morning telling her how I felt and she replied with "Well good morning to you to lol"

I haven't replied...not sure what to say to her, shes online right now actually. Oh well.
Zackwell
In my honest opinion, I think you should let the past rest, but if she intrigues you so much, I wouldn't see the harm in asking her if she wanted to go get a coffee sometime, to catch up in person.
Not so much in a romantic sense, but if you want to patch things up with her, being present and social helps. biggrin.gif

But of course, that's only if she's not too far away from you.

If she's a bit far away from you, just express that you wouldn't mind doing something like meeting up sometime somewhere.

You're dwelling too much on things that have already happened, she seems that she'd like to just move on with her life, but you're stuck back then in that moment, regretting.

Live life with no regrets. =p
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