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Chakanevil
ay, very much so, with out N_R where would we be?

He's maybe the most important person of the team, not that we forgot you N_R, just it's a bit obvious as to who is doing the majority of the hard work(Scripting).
SilentResident
I forgot completely this picture - my Minish Cap remake, 3 years ago, in PZE.



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dodongo08
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 26 2011, 09:53 AM) *
ay, very much so, with out N_R where would we be?

He's maybe the most important person of the team, not that we forgot you N_R, just it's a bit obvious as to who is doing the majority of the hard work(Scripting).


Well, I think that the most important person in a team is the team in general ^^, because all team member have a strict work for the Engine ( like making a tileset, or scripting, or make pictures for PZE ...)
But I admit that scripting is the most difficult thing to do in a video game

QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 26 2011, 10:10 AM) *
I forgot completely this picture - my Minish Cap remake, 3 years ago, in PZE.



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Does this is the 1st release of PZE ? I think that was a very old release ohmy.gif
SilentResident
QUOTE (dodongo08 @ Sep 26 2011, 09:30 PM) *
QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 26 2011, 10:10 AM) *
I forgot completely this picture - my Minish Cap remake, 3 years ago, in PZE.



Uploaded with ImageShack.us


Does this is the 1st release of PZE ? I think that was a very old release ohmy.gif


lol I never released this. huh.gif This was my game made with PZE, not PZE itself. smile.gif
Chakanevil
hey silent are you still on dial up?
SilentResident
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 26 2011, 09:57 PM) *
hey silent are you still on dial up?


Yep, in 2 days I could have the ADSL in use. Why? smile.gif
Chakanevil
new demo with new scripts, but it will be a bit big
SilentResident
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 26 2011, 10:20 PM) *
new demo with new scripts, but it will be a bit big


Send it to me send it to me send it to me!!! biggrin.gif
Chakanevil
QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 26 2011, 02:27 PM) *
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 26 2011, 10:20 PM) *
new demo with new scripts, but it will be a bit big


Send it to me send it to me send it to me!!! biggrin.gif


ok i pulled the audio out so just make sure you add that, plus the "mini dungeon isn't fully functional, you can walk through walls, as well as teleport doesn't work, you'll see what i mean, although it works fine in the demo I downloaded, I'm guessing this is conflict with the scripts, XASABS will probably resolve the problem, but for now, I hope you agree that these new scripts should be added.
Chakanevil
looking at another script rq
SilentResident
Quest Status Screen fix
When Chakanevil posted the Quest Status Screen, I found a small color contrast on the bar that links the slot for Kokiri Emerald with the slot for Goron Ruby. Now it is fixed:
Also the Octagon (the cycle around the Triforce, which runs through all the medallion slots) now is more round than before.



EDIT: also some fixes on the other screens:

Inventory Screen fix
Fixed the contrast of light and dark blue in the left-most side of the window, right below the left arrow.


Equipment Screen fix
Fix for the top side and top-right corner of the screen which had darker tones, which comes in antithesis with the Inventory Screen's same positions. Now this has been corrected smile.gif


Now the screens are 100% perfect I think.

Chakanevil, what about uploading some picture samples of the screen gray background transparency? Upload the screens, this time with a picture of the game placed behind them, so people can see how transparent the screens are? smile.gif
Chakanevil
sure just a second
dodongo08
QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 26 2011, 11:41 AM) *
Quest Status Screen fix
When Chakanevil posted the Quest Status Screen, I found a small color contrast on the bar that links the slot for Kokiri Emerald with the slot for Goron Ruby. Now it is fixed:



EDIT: also some fixes on the other screens:

Inventory Screen fix
Fixed the contrast of light and dark blue in the left-most side of the window, right below the left arrow.


Equipment Screen fix
Fix for the top side and top-right corner of the screen which had darker tones, which comes in antithesis with the Inventory Screen's same positions. Now this has been corrected smile.gif


Now the screens are 100% perfect I think.

Chakanevil, what about uploading some picture samples of the screen gray background transparency? Upload the screens, this time with a picture of the game placed behind them, so people can see how transparent the screens are? smile.gif

Did you planned to add a Map Screen ?
SilentResident
QUOTE (dodongo08 @ Sep 26 2011, 11:14 PM) *
Did you planned to add a Map Screen ?

Yes as well as a Mask and Save Game Screens smile.gif
dodongo08
QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 26 2011, 12:25 PM) *
QUOTE (dodongo08 @ Sep 26 2011, 11:14 PM) *
Did you planned to add a Map Screen ?

Yes as well as a Mask and Save Game Screens smile.gif


Good news, so, I'm glad to make a 2D Majora's Mask happy.gif

Hmmmmmm ... Chakanevil or SilentSlayer, do you think that a HUD like that is possible ? (I will try this with the Update 3)
SilentResident
QUOTE (dodongo08 @ Sep 26 2011, 11:34 PM) *

It is not so simple to move then in UP3, and it takes very long time to re-arrange their positions on the screen due to the way the HUD was working so far.
But I recommend you waiting for UP4 instead of trying that yourself, because the HUD in UP4 is gonna be re-arranged anyways, to match the HUD of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask.
dodongo08
Ok, waiting for Update 4 happy.gif
Chakanevil
i can not get one script to work, it's the zeriab's caterpillar script, I'm guessing it has to do with the 8 way movement scrips or pixel movement, we need this such as when princess zelda is behind you and pushes the bookcase in LTTP.

Also as a request to Silent.









I think silent, that it would be weird to have link in the back ground of the Equipment screen, i suggest making the script remove the sprite when the menu is called and replacing it when it is canceled, since on the tile link will show, having a sprite in the background looks weird.

The hud will not be shown when the menu is called btw.
Chakanevil
QUOTE (dodongo08 @ Sep 26 2011, 03:34 PM) *
QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 26 2011, 12:25 PM) *
QUOTE (dodongo08 @ Sep 26 2011, 11:14 PM) *
Did you planned to add a Map Screen ?

Yes as well as a Mask and Save Game Screens smile.gif


Good news, so, I'm glad to make a 2D Majora's Mask happy.gif

Hmmmmmm ... Chakanevil or SilentSlayer, do you think that a HUD like that is possible ? (I will try this with the Update 3)



I like this set up, I think this is how UP4 should look
SilentResident
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 27 2011, 12:30 AM) *
i can not get one script to work, it's the zeriab's caterpillar script, I'm guessing it has to do with the 8 way movement scrips or pixel movement, we need this such as when princess zelda is behind you and pushes the bookcase in LTTP.

Also as a request to Silent.









I think silent, that it would be weird to have link in the back ground of the Equipment screen, i suggest making the script remove the sprite when the menu is called and replacing it when it is canceled, since on the tile link will show, having a sprite in the background looks weird.

The hud will not be shown when the menu is called btw.


It may look.

I could prefer to make the gray background even less transparent instead of removing Link.... because in the zelda games, Link can still be seen behind the pause menus. So better make gray less transparent so Link no longer distracts us smile.gif

EDIT: Seems to be a pretty useful script. Well, before you playtest with it, make sure you have a backup of it, so we send it intact to N_R who may give it a look after he is done with XASABS and Update Patch 4 stuff. I think we save this script for the end of UP4, or leave it for UP5 as the UP4 is the hardest and most tedious patch so far, which takes long time to finish, has lots of scripting work, and has so many changes occurring at same time: changes to File Display Screen (after Title Menu), changes to HUD, changes to Pause Menus and Inventories, changes to the way the map functions, changes to... oh well, UP4 is sooo big - we better leave this script for after we are done with the more prioritized plans for UP4 smile.gif

EDIT2: I am afraid to burden our dear NR even more. He got so much work - and he is a site moderator - I am understanding that he wants to help the community and I prefer to not give him more work right when he is already busy with the XASABS thing. For this reason I am thinking of asking Derula for a little assistance - just discussing with him a possible hire to PZE's team for some work in exchange for a little price biggrin.gif The only problem is that I don't have Bank account, and due to the Greek Dept crisis, is very unlikely that my parents are willing to open a Bank account for me to send the money to Derula. As we said, I am looking for some ways to pay him in exchange. Yes, he offered to help us, but he is a great scripter of his class, one of the best ones I seen around, plus he is already pretty busy with his scripts and content, so I prefer a good reason to hire him biggrin.gif

EDIT3: And I feel it could be nicier if reward NR with some money as well, as he deserves it for ALL the help he has done for us in the past 3 years - a non-stop hard work.
Chakanevil
Derula would be an awesome asset to PZE, from the way you talk he does seem really talented, another scripter would help lessen the load, so Derula won't you consider having you name on perhaps the best Zelda engine to come, you can use your creative mind to do all sorts of things, I have to say that myself never find a dull moment in the creation of this engine.
SilentResident
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 27 2011, 02:07 AM) *
Derula would be an awesome asset to PZE, from the way you talk he does seem really talented, another scripter would help lessen the load, so Derula won't you consider having you name on perhaps the best Zelda engine to come, you can use your creative mind to do all sorts of things, I have to say that myself never find a dull moment in the creation of this engine.



I agree that he would be an awesome asset to PZE. smile.gif

And it is nice to hear that you never find a dull moment in the creation of this engine. biggrin.gif

Our goal is:
Implement the 100% of the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time's features to PZE
Implement the 100% of the Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask's features to PZE
Implement the 100% of the Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap's features to PZE
Implement the 100% of the Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Seasons's features to PZE
Implement the 100% of the Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Deluxe's features to PZE

and in a lesser extend, implement some elements from other Zelda games not listed above.
Chakanevil
QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 26 2011, 07:36 PM) *
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 27 2011, 02:07 AM) *
Derula would be an awesome asset to PZE, from the way you talk he does seem really talented, another scripter would help lessen the load, so Derula won't you consider having you name on perhaps the best Zelda engine to come, you can use your creative mind to do all sorts of things, I have to say that myself never find a dull moment in the creation of this engine.



I agree that he would be an awesome asset to PZE. smile.gif

And it is nice to hear that you never find a dull moment in the creation of this engine. biggrin.gif

Our goal is:
Implement the 100% of the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time's features to PZE
Implement the 100% of the Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask's features to PZE
Implement the 100% of the Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap's features to PZE
Implement the 100% of the Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Seasons's features to PZE
Implement the 100% of the Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Deluxe's features to PZE

and in a lesser extend, implement some elements from other Zelda games not listed above.


Think how epic it would be to switch from zelda LLTP to Minish cap mode, shrinking would be awesome, I hope to see this in UP4.5 or UP5

Have you tried the demo yet wink.gif
Klokinator
QUOTE
EDIT2: I am afraid to burden our dear NR even more. He got so much work - and he is a site moderator - I am understanding that he wants to help the community and I prefer to not give him more work right when he is already busy with the XASABS thing. For this reason I am thinking of asking Derula for a little assistance - just discussing with him a possible hire to PZE's team for some work in exchange for a little price biggrin.gif The only problem is that I don't have Bank account, and due to the Greek Dept crisis, is very unlikely that my parents are willing to open a Bank account for me to send the money to Derula. As we said, I am looking for some ways to pay him in exchange. Yes, he offered to help us, but he is a great scripter of his class, one of the best ones I seen around, plus he is already pretty busy with his scripts and content, so I prefer a good reason to hire him biggrin.gif

How much is his price? I'd help you guys out financially if you need it, however if you're in a rush you'll have to wait. I lost my job 6 days ago and I'm moving to another town to try and find work elsewhere.
SilentResident
QUOTE (Klokinator @ Sep 27 2011, 03:42 AM) *
QUOTE
EDIT2: I am afraid to burden our dear NR even more. He got so much work - and he is a site moderator - I am understanding that he wants to help the community and I prefer to not give him more work right when he is already busy with the XASABS thing. For this reason I am thinking of asking Derula for a little assistance - just discussing with him a possible hire to PZE's team for some work in exchange for a little price biggrin.gif The only problem is that I don't have Bank account, and due to the Greek Dept crisis, is very unlikely that my parents are willing to open a Bank account for me to send the money to Derula. As we said, I am looking for some ways to pay him in exchange. Yes, he offered to help us, but he is a great scripter of his class, one of the best ones I seen around, plus he is already pretty busy with his scripts and content, so I prefer a good reason to hire him biggrin.gif

How much is his price? I'd help you guys out financially if you need it, however if you're in a rush you'll have to wait. I lost my job 6 days ago and I'm moving to another town to try and find work elsewhere.


250Euro/hour (kidding lol)

We had a small discuss about this just a little time ago - I can say that the last thing he wants is money smile.gif - he is not motivated by money (and of course I never expected that he is motivated by money - just thought it will help as with other cases where a team needs more scripters to lessen the load of work). He is more motivated by the actual work on the project and by offering him an artistic hand (help with graphics) in his project could make it pretty fair deal for him to offer us a scripting hand to our project.

I am not sure yet what I will do. First of all need see where exactly I will need his help and then I will ask him and he will see how he can help.
Chakanevil
added new files to dropbox!
SilentResident
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 27 2011, 05:13 AM) *
added new files to dropbox!



Gonna install it lol

QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 21 2011, 06:29 AM) *
I wanna get some of this project.







Zelda HOD

He's an awesome artist so if we can get luckly and get her on the team or even the time script, it would be awesome

Alexcalibur


Dodongo08, you said you are French, don't you? Can you help contact a guy called Alexcalibur who can be found in these forums?:
http://rpgcreative.net/forum/viewtopic.php...a125c18#p208217

Nevermind, I registered and I am able to contact him. smile.gif
SilentResident
OK, I have sent the following PM to Alexcalibur in behalf of our team: smile.gif

Show PM to Alexcalibur
Hello dear Alexcalibur! smile.gif

A someone in the Project Zelda Engine's (PZE) forums has mentioned of you and your love for Zelda games. We are glad to tell you that you are welcomed to visit us at this forum here:
http://www.rpgrevolution.com/forums/index....showtopic=47454

We are the Project Zelda Engine Developing team, we consist of 4 members so far and we are half way on finishing a Zelda Starter Kit for RPG Maker XP!

So far we are integrated the 70% of Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time's features to PZE and we plan to integrate even more features, from other games, such as Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask and Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap.

The Project Zelda Engine has been improved drastically over the 5 years we are working on it, we got a scripter, an artist, an event maker and a few more people who help us with resources!

We could like to invite you in our team and help us in our cause! Your addition to the team could really *rocket* the engine's progress!

This is the logo of Project Zelda Engine: The RPG Maker XP's Zelda Starter Kit and some pictures of new and old games created with it:











































Create, Share and Play your own Zelda 2D games with the Updated Project Zelda Engine!
Find us here: http://www.rpgrevolution.com/forums/index....showtopic=47454
Chakanevil
Edit, ignore that, it was an image that threw me off

AlexCalibur21
SilentResident
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 27 2011, 06:41 AM) *
Silent Alex Caliber is a girl, thought I'd put that out there wink.gif


Aye, that's nice! A such good artist smile.gif
Chakanevil
he has awesome artwork
Chakanevil
Here's some of his artwork
Artwork


















zido
Hello everybody! smile.gif
I know a little Alexcalibur (I worked for his project with him) so maybe I can help you. I don't know if he replied you but since a long time, he didn't give news. I'm registered in RPG Creative and I can tell you that he didn't log in since december 2010... If you want I can talk with him by MSN to announce him your request.

PS: I know that my English isn't very good... XD
SilentResident
QUOTE (zido @ Sep 27 2011, 02:43 PM) *
Hello everybody! smile.gif
I know a little Alexcalibur (I worked for his project with him) so maybe I can help you. I don't know if he replied you but since a long time, he didn't give news. I'm registered in RPG Creative and I can tell you that he didn't log in since december 2010... If you want I can talk with him by MSN to announce him your request.

PS: I know that my English isn't very good... XD



Hello dear Zido. Any help is always welcomed! smile.gif Well, basically we don't "need" that desperately the Alexcalibur's help - just we believe that an extra person's hand is always welcomed, useful, and pretty handy, as we all are Zelda fans who love the Legend of Zelda game series - and we aim into satisfying the growing gaming community smile.gif
If are you able to contact him, feel free doing so - I myself visited his profile in those forums and it says he logged in 24 hours ago (that was yesterday - today it says he logged in 2 days ago, but maybe I am wrong).

We really wish people who are inspired by our work, are willing to join us and contribute in any way they find better smile.gif

Wanna share with us your experience on working wiht him on his projects? It was zelda games, I guess? Or something else? smile.gif


EDIT: Ohhh you are right. He has to visit the forums since 2010... And the "last visit: 24 hours ago" I saw, was from his Youtube account link I think.

So yes, I could be so glad if can you come in contact with him in behalf of our team, I could be very thankful! biggrin.gif
zido
QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 27 2011, 05:17 AM) *
Wanna share with us your experience on working wiht him on his projects? It was zelda games, I guess? Or something else? smile.gif


It was a very small contribution sweat.gif I mapped his water temple for Zelda Hymn of Darkness...
SilentResident
QUOTE (zido @ Sep 27 2011, 04:05 PM) *
QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 27 2011, 05:17 AM) *
Wanna share with us your experience on working wiht him on his projects? It was zelda games, I guess? Or something else? smile.gif


It was a very small contribution sweat.gif I mapped his water temple for Zelda Hymn of Darkness...



The game was developed on RPG Maker XP, right? The fact that his game was on RPG Maker XP inspires me biggrin.gif The fact that RPG Maker XP created more than one Zelda-Game-Creation-Engines is really a nice thing to know wink.gif.


In an engine Alexcalibur himself developed or he did used a starter kit or something similar to this as a basis?
zido
I think he developed it himself but when I mapped for his game, I couldn't see the scripts sad.gif
SilentResident
QUOTE (zido @ Sep 27 2011, 05:31 PM) *
I think he developed it himself but when I mapped for his game, I couldn't see the scripts sad.gif


ok, what matters is that it was on RPG Maker XP. That matters, nothing else smile.gif

Let us know after you come into a contact with Alex biggrin.gif rolleyes.gif
dodongo08
QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 26 2011, 06:51 PM) *
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 27 2011, 05:13 AM) *
added new files to dropbox!



Gonna install it lol

QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 21 2011, 06:29 AM) *
I wanna get some of this project.







Zelda HOD

She's an awesome artist so if we can get luckly and get her on the team or even the time script, it would be awesome

Alexcalibur


Dodongo08, you said you are French, don't you? Can you help contact a guy called Alexcalibur who can be found in these forums?:
http://rpgcreative.net/forum/viewtopic.php...a125c18#p208217

Nevermind, I registered and I am able to contact him. smile.gif

Okay, I will contact AlexCalibur ^^ but zido says that he is not connected since december 2010, but ... Well, I try in RPG Creative or/and Youtube^^
EDIT : Mission Accomplished, I send to AlexCalibur an E-Mail via Youtube ^^
EDIT 2 : I'm going to change the basic "Time Flow" of PZE Update 3 to implent the M'sM clock system ...
Zido, please read this :
Tu est bien le co-developpeur de ce jeu ?
Mais vu que y'a que toi qui peu parler a Alex via MSN, a toi de jouer happy.gif
zido
Dodongo08 -> Je ne sais pas tellement si on peut dire que je suis co-développeur vu le peu que j'ai fait pour ce jeu ^^' sinon ok dès que je le vois connecté sur MSN je lui parelerai.

EDIT: So I do not know if we can say that I am co-developer saw the little I have done for this game ^ ^ 'if not ok when I see him I logged onto MSN Parelli. Please use English on the forum, even if you have to use it through a translator like this. ~ Redd
OrigamiRose
Dude, this is a english speaking forum, not a french speaking. If you are going to post, do it in english please smile.gif
SilentResident
QUOTE (dodongo08 @ Sep 27 2011, 06:22 PM) *
EDIT 2 : I'm going to change the basic "Time Flow" of PZE Update 3 to implent the M'sM clock system ...

Keep in mind that the UP4 will feature the new Majora's Mask clock system anyways...

News: Tomorrow, Wednesday, I am gonna release the next Screen for Project Zelda Engine!: The Mask Screen!

But I am unable to decide which color I shall use for the screen.
Some teammates find the red color pretty fine for the Mask Screen's windowskin, while I think that the purple color also fits well.
Before I continue developing the Mask Screen, what is your opinion, guys? Purple or Red? Or something else? (as long as it is not Blue, Green, or Yellow, as those 3 colors are already in use by the Inventory, Equipment and Quest Status Screens).

So, guys, which color do you think fits better for Mask Screen? Which is a more "carnival-ish" color? The Purple or the Red?
(Please don't ask to use the tan color the Mask Screen of Majora's Mask had, as we want the PZE to have a better variety of colors for each of its menus)
Thank you for your response.
Klokinator
I'd say use Purple. Majora's mask was a purple mask anyway wasn't it? Seems more fitting to me.
Baffou
I said purple too,
it will fit better with the masks...
Chakanevil
since map is red, I have to say purple as well.
SilentResident
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 28 2011, 12:11 AM) *
since map is red, I have to say purple as well.



Yes map is a red/brownie color.
Chakanevil
any new screens?
SilentResident
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 28 2011, 03:05 AM) *
any new screens?

Yes mate, today Wednesday, as I said above, on my previous comment. smile.gif

EDIT: This is offtopic, has nothing to do with the forums

May I ask something?
Just a little advice. Lets say I wanna buy The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword. But I don't have a Nintendo Wii console - I never played with the Wii before. I know not much about Wii. And I have heard that a Wii Remote Plus (an external device) is mandatory to play the game. Without it, we can't play it. It does sounds something like an addon patch to me. I am so stressed, the whole Wii thing and its big variety of external devices has caused a big confusion to me.

Basically, I pre-ordered a limited edition of Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword which is shipped with a "Motion Plus" device, (which is a requirement so to play the game).

Now, I wonder, what else I have to buy after the game and the device required to play it?
Just I have to buy the Wii console itself - the box, nothing else, right? But it comes with so many external devices - do I need any of those along with the console?
To play Skyward sword you only need Game CD + Wii Console + Motion Plus Device only - just 3 things, right?
Chakanevil
QUOTE (SilentResident @ Sep 27 2011, 10:30 PM) *
QUOTE (Chakanevil @ Sep 28 2011, 03:05 AM) *
any new screens?

Yes mate, today Wednesday, as I said above, on my previous comment. smile.gif

EDIT: This is offtopic, has nothing to do with the forums

May I ask something?
Just a little advice. Lets say I wanna buy The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword. But I don't have a Nintendo Wii console - I never played with the Wii before. I know not much about Wii. And I have heard that a Wii Remote Plus (an external device) is mandatory to play the game. Without it, we can't play it. It does sounds something like an addon patch to me. I am so stressed, the whole Wii thing and its big variety of external devices has caused a big confusion to me.

Basically, I pre-ordered a limited edition of Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword which is shipped with a "Motion Plus" device, (which is a requirement so to play the game).

Now, I wonder, what else I have to buy after the game and the device required to play it?
Just I have to buy the Wii console itself - the box, nothing else, right? But it comes with so many external devices - do I need any of those along with the console?
To play Skyward sword you only need Game CD + Wii Console + Motion Plus Device only - just 3 things, right?



Off topic
yes, my aunt has a wii, you will need, a Wii, the game, Wii mote(comes with wii system), Nunchuck(comes with Wii System), motion Plus(Comes with Wii system), and the sensor bar(comes with wii system), all the add ons such as the classic controller, are for games such as Yoshi Story, which is mandatory to play, I'm positive that you will not need a classic controller, which plugs in where the motion plus does, but i would suggest buying a recharge station, as it eats double AA batteries like crazy these last for hours and can charge 2 or 4 remotes plus a set of batteries.

here's the stand she uses which does a good job, although now with kids it don't seem to charge in the back slot, it charges separate batteries and the front remote, but not the back, some times it doesn't fit the remote correctly, but it does the job, I think it's the kids fault that it's not 100% up to par, it worked great when we first got it.



i want her to replace it with either



or



the ones that work off of usb are nice since it will pull the power from the wii, no extra plug ins to worry about.

Klokinator
Let's make it simple.

Wii.
Wii controller.
Wii Motion Plus plugs into the bottom of the controller (You may have noticed a usb plug there)
Game
Nunchuck Controller. (Possibly optional, dunno. I'm not really interested in Skyward sword.)
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