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SOLIDSTRIFER

Ultimatum: The Wrath of The Gods



[i]Abstract- *A hero's legacy fights on for the future of the world.

Genre- *Fantasy, Drama

Platform- *Rpg Maker vx

Beta Download
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Story
45 years have passed since a bloody civil war had Brought the World of Aithen onto the brink of destruction. The victors of that war were left to rule in peace thanks to the help from the Sword of Ultimatum. But the very evil that sought to destroy the world all those years ago was none other than the Gods themselves. Now that the great Hero Leon has aged and can no longer stand up to this evil , his son and some very determined warriors must stand up and face the real culprits, the gods of Aithen.

Characters:

Leon Colton
Age: 65 sex:Male Personality:Heroic
The hero of legend, He defeated the great evil once before but because of the stains of time he can no longer find that inner strength he once had.

Tex Colton
Age: 17 Sex:Male Personality: Heroic
The son of Leon, wants to prove to his father that he is the rightful heir to his father's legacy. Has spent his entire life on a secluded island because of his father's fear of the world.

The heroes of Seifen
Age: Varies Sex: Varies Personalities: varies
The guardians of the world. Commanded by Leon.

Seifen
Age:??? Sex:Male Personality:God-like, Caring
The Creator of Aithen, once a loving god, gave all his power to a sword.

The Gods
Age:??? Sex: Varies Personality: Powerhungry, Vengeful
Used Akimatos to dispose of Seifen and now plan on destroying the planet. Hate the way humans live their lives and wish to dispose of them

Akimaltos
Age:Deceased Sex: Male Personality: Powerhungry, Depressed
: A once evil king who began the civil war. Now a fallen Spirit who has returned to reveal a secret that could change their lives for ever.

Jack:
Age: Sex:Male Personality: Vengeful

Son of another legendary warrior known as Slashvier, Lost his father in a battle against a god, wants revenge for his father's loss.

Maria:
Age:19 Sex:Female Personality: Prissy
An old friend of Jack's. She only took upon this mission to stay close to Jack.

Christine
Age:23 Sex:Female Personality:Snobby
A trained mage sent by the Warriors of Seifen to assist the party in their mission.



SCREENS







Credits:


Story: Solidstrifer

Maps: some revised by markchapman and Lukas, The rest By SolidStrifer

Events: Solidstrifer

Music: Nobuo Uematsu,Elix

Director: Solidstrifer

Scripts : Rmakervx.
Features
Well I am trying to implement an atb battle system into the game, I have a location display, Amped up battle hud, custom main menu
ambalance
Hey buddy,
I'm not one to lecture about a topic not meeting the criteria, but you should probably try to include more information about your game if you want people to test it out.
At first glance here there is no information about the storyline, nothing to show what we can expect from your demo.
Even if you only want someone to try out your game you should try to 'sell' it to the public.
If someone were to test it out, they would definately want to see more information on what the storyline is about, the characters, the features of your game, maybe?
A couple of pretty pictures too? And a title would be even better.
literarygoth
Played for a bit and have some suggestions to make:

In the intro, check your text screens, twice they change the background from black/clear to blue and move down on the screen.
Also, the sentences in these text boxes were broken in an odd way.
What I mean is this:

You'd have description
of your
background story lined up like this.

It made it awkward to read. Would it be possible to do a cut scene to partially describe the history? In my opinion it would be more interesting to see it unfold rather than just read it all. Then, once you get to the screen where you meet the kids' dad and he takes off then you meet the other two characters and they break the 4th wall - I really didn't like that at all. You're just getting into the story that you've created, and then you tear the player out by throwing in creator cameo's. Frankly I found it really annoying.

Next, your mapping really needs help. You're using them wrong. Some aren't ground tiles, but you've used them as ground tiles. You have overworld tiles on your inner city maps and the maps for inside houses are not only mapped incorrectly, but extremely confusing because you're not using the wall tiles properly.
There should be some mapping tutorials on this site somewhere, but I'll give you some examples of what I mean.



The autotiles circled in red, are the outsides of buildings.
You really need to pay attention to how high buildings are, if they're the same height as your player - it's going to make the building look like a kids playhouse. It simply won't 'look' big enough for the player to walk into, nevermind stand in. I suggest doing something like this:



Now you might be wondering what that black space is. That's to show that there's an actual space, opening, in the wall once the player has opened the door. Otherwise, it gives the impression that they're opening a door and then walking into the wall xD
You can put your door events over this without a problem and it will look great in game.

Next - inside buildings.

These tiles are for inner walls/inside buildings etc.


Again, you really need to pay attention to how high the walls are. If the walls are only one square high, it looks impossible for people to live inside. Making walls at least two squares high looks more realistic, and you can play around with depth, like in the picture. Notice the walls are all 3 squares high except once you go up the stairs into that kitchen area, the walls are only 2 squares high.

Also, pay attention to, and make use of the shadow tile. This will REALLY add depth to your cities and towns and inside of houses etc.
Here's an example of a town from one of my projects:
Town




I think you show promise, but definately playtest your project often so you catch minor mistakes. I do believe I caught a couple spelling and grammar misshaps in the introduction of the game.
SOLIDSTRIFER
QUOTE (literarygoth @ Aug 26 2010, 08:12 PM) *
Played for a bit and have some suggestions to make:

In the intro, check your text screens, twice they change the background from black/clear to blue and move down on the screen.
Also, the sentences in these text boxes were broken in an odd way.
What I mean is this:

You'd have description
of your
background story lined up like this.

It made it awkward to read. Would it be possible to do a cut scene to partially describe the history? In my opinion it would be more interesting to see it unfold rather than just read it all. Then, once you get to the screen where you meet the kids' dad and he takes off then you meet the other two characters and they break the 4th wall - I really didn't like that at all. You're just getting into the story that you've created, and then you tear the player out by throwing in creator cameo's. Frankly I found it really annoying.

Next, your mapping really needs help. You're using them wrong. Some aren't ground tiles, but you've used them as ground tiles. You have overworld tiles on your inner city maps and the maps for inside houses are not only mapped incorrectly, but extremely confusing because you're not using the wall tiles properly.
There should be some mapping tutorials on this site somewhere, but I'll give you some examples of what I mean.



The autotiles circled in red, are the outsides of buildings.
You really need to pay attention to how high buildings are, if they're the same height as your player - it's going to make the building look like a kids playhouse. It simply won't 'look' big enough for the player to walk into, nevermind stand in. I suggest doing something like this:



Now you might be wondering what that black space is. That's to show that there's an actual space, opening, in the wall once the player has opened the door. Otherwise, it gives the impression that they're opening a door and then walking into the wall xD
You can put your door events over this without a problem and it will look great in game.

Next - inside buildings.

These tiles are for inner walls/inside buildings etc.


Again, you really need to pay attention to how high the walls are. If the walls are only one square high, it looks impossible for people to live inside. Making walls at least two squares high looks more realistic, and you can play around with depth, like in the picture. Notice the walls are all 3 squares high except once you go up the stairs into that kitchen area, the walls are only 2 squares high.

Also, pay attention to, and make use of the shadow tile. This will REALLY add depth to your cities and towns and inside of houses etc.
Here's an example of a town from one of my projects:
Town




I think you show promise, but definately playtest your project often so you catch minor mistakes. I do believe I caught a couple spelling and grammar misshaps in the introduction of the game.



hey man thanks for the advice
literarygoth
No problem happy.gif
I wasn't trying to be an ass. I can offer any help with mapping and some eventing if you'd like.
The only thing I will stress, is playtest playtest playtest! Yes it gets horridly annoying after you've gone through the beginning of your game 800 times, but it will be worth it for your players. Also, have a friend be an alpha tester - have them play your game and give them a questionnaire so that you can tweak things.
Legacy
SOLIDSTRIFER. Next time check the rules for posting in this board. Games Under Construction Rules

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Zinx10
Epic tutorial litery. Yes it does get annoying testing the same thing over and over and over, but it will be worth it. My current project has been tested at least 50 times, minimum, just for 11 short levels.
Rob_Riv
  • Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
  • ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
  • Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
  • Bad grammar.
  • I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
  • What is this I don't even...
  • Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
  • Lots of mapping errors.
  • What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
  • Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
  • Spelling mistakes
  • No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
  • So many mapping errors.
  • Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
  • This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
  • ...lots of capitals
  • Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
  • I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
  • Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?
Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.
SOLIDSTRIFER
QUOTE (Zinx_therpgmaker @ Aug 26 2010, 10:51 PM) *
Epic tutorial litery. Yes it does get annoying testing the same thing over and over and over, but it will be worth it. My current project has been tested at least 50 times, minimum, just for 11 short levels.


how do i make screenshots?

QUOTE (Rob_Riv @ Aug 27 2010, 05:59 AM) *
  • Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
  • ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
  • Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
  • Bad grammar.
  • I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
  • What is this I don't even...
  • Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
  • Lots of mapping errors.
  • What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
  • Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
  • Spelling mistakes
  • No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
  • So many mapping errors.
  • Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
  • This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
  • ...lots of captials
  • Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
  • I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
  • Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?
Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.


ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warrors, again you did not read the intro)

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 27 2010, 09:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Zinx_therpgmaker @ Aug 26 2010, 10:51 PM) *
Epic tutorial litery. Yes it does get annoying testing the same thing over and over and over, but it will be worth it. My current project has been tested at least 50 times, minimum, just for 11 short levels.


how do i make screenshots?

QUOTE (Rob_Riv @ Aug 27 2010, 05:59 AM) *
  • Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
  • ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
  • Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
  • Bad grammar.
  • I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
  • What is this I don't even...
  • Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
  • Lots of mapping errors.
  • What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
  • Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
  • Spelling mistakes
  • No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
  • So many mapping errors.
  • Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
  • This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
  • ...lots of captials
  • Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
  • I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
  • Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?
Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.


ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warriors, again you did not read the intro)

also if you actually researched the word Ultimatum you would know why i named it that way,
again you did not pay any attention to my intro
Resource Dragon
QUOTE (Rob_Riv @ Aug 27 2010, 05:59 AM) *
  • Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
  • ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
  • Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
  • Bad grammar.
  • I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
  • What is this I don't even...
  • Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
  • Lots of mapping errors.
  • What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
  • Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
  • Spelling mistakes
  • No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
  • So many mapping errors.
  • Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
  • This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
  • ...lots of captials
  • Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
  • I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
  • Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?
Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.


Roflmao! i cracked up reading your post XD

and to make screen shots, press the print screen button, or PrtSc.
then paste it in paint.
Adrien.
QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 27 2010, 08:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Zinx_therpgmaker @ Aug 26 2010, 10:51 PM) *
Epic tutorial litery. Yes it does get annoying testing the same thing over and over and over, but it will be worth it. My current project has been tested at least 50 times, minimum, just for 11 short levels.


how do i make screenshots?

QUOTE (Rob_Riv @ Aug 27 2010, 05:59 AM) *
  • Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
  • ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
  • Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
  • Bad grammar.
  • I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
  • What is this I don't even...
  • Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
  • Lots of mapping errors.
  • What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
  • Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
  • Spelling mistakes
  • No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
  • So many mapping errors.
  • Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
  • This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
  • ...lots of captials
  • Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
  • I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
  • Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?
Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.


ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warrors, again you did not read the intro)

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 27 2010, 09:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Zinx_therpgmaker @ Aug 26 2010, 10:51 PM) *
Epic tutorial litery. Yes it does get annoying testing the same thing over and over and over, but it will be worth it. My current project has been tested at least 50 times, minimum, just for 11 short levels.


how do i make screenshots?

QUOTE (Rob_Riv @ Aug 27 2010, 05:59 AM) *
  • Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
  • ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
  • Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
  • Bad grammar.
  • I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
  • What is this I don't even...
  • Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
  • Lots of mapping errors.
  • What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
  • Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
  • Spelling mistakes
  • No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
  • So many mapping errors.
  • Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
  • This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
  • ...lots of captials
  • Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
  • I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
  • Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?
Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.


ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warriors, again you did not read the intro)

also if you actually researched the word Ultimatum you would know why i named it that way,
again you did not pay any attention to my intro



Dude being rude to rob is like asking for your ass to be kicked all over this site side ways
SOLIDSTRIFER
QUOTE (Adrien. @ Aug 27 2010, 10:32 PM) *
QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 27 2010, 08:33 PM) *
QUOTE (Zinx_therpgmaker @ Aug 26 2010, 10:51 PM) *
Epic tutorial litery. Yes it does get annoying testing the same thing over and over and over, but it will be worth it. My current project has been tested at least 50 times, minimum, just for 11 short levels.


how do i make screenshots?

QUOTE (Rob_Riv @ Aug 27 2010, 05:59 AM) *
  • Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
  • ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
  • Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
  • Bad grammar.
  • I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
  • What is this I don't even...
  • Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
  • Lots of mapping errors.
  • What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
  • Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
  • Spelling mistakes
  • No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
  • So many mapping errors.
  • Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
  • This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
  • ...lots of captials
  • Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
  • I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
  • Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?
Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.


ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warrors, again you did not read the intro)

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 27 2010, 09:32 PM) *
QUOTE (Zinx_therpgmaker @ Aug 26 2010, 10:51 PM) *
Epic tutorial litery. Yes it does get annoying testing the same thing over and over and over, but it will be worth it. My current project has been tested at least 50 times, minimum, just for 11 short levels.


how do i make screenshots?

QUOTE (Rob_Riv @ Aug 27 2010, 05:59 AM) *
  • Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
  • ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
  • Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
  • Bad grammar.
  • I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
  • What is this I don't even...
  • Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
  • Lots of mapping errors.
  • What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
  • Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
  • Spelling mistakes
  • No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
  • So many mapping errors.
  • Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
  • This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
  • ...lots of captials
  • Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
  • I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
  • Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?
Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.


ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warriors, again you did not read the intro)

also if you actually researched the word Ultimatum you would know why i named it that way,
again you did not pay any attention to my intro



Dude being rude to rob is like asking for your ass to be kicked all over this site side ways


ok fine my bad rob

but he clearly didnt pay attention to the little things
its like doing a book report on a book you never read

im not tryin to be rude im just defending my clause
i apologize if i offended anyone
Rob_Riv
QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

Yes.

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

My point wasn't about the fact that he was in your party, did you even read what anything says?

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

It doesn't say that in your intro.

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warrors, again you did not read the intro)

It doesn't say that in the intro. Again, you did not read the intro.


Your 346 word introduction.
Aithen, a world filled with life and prosperity.
A world of great peace
The nations of this
world never fought with one another.

Until one day a dark force came upon a king
of one of these
nations, this man was only
known to the world as SolidStrife.

SolidStrife saw the world as a gift from
the Gods.
He then proceded
on to conquer this world with his vast army

Many villages were burned down, Innocent people were
slaughtered.

The people began to lose hope. All seemed to be lost.
Until one day
a young man by the name of Leon,rose up
against the tyrant.

Leon fought the evil king's army, but he could not do it
on his own.

The people saw this bravery and joined him in his
campaign of freedom
The warriors who fought alongside Leon
were seen as heroes

The people saw them as warriors of fate and
declared them the warriors of Destiny.

The Gods on the other hand saw them as
the warriors of Seifen, the creator of this
world.

Many battles were fought, and many a great warrior
perished.
Nevertheless Leon pressed on his fight.
Then Seifen came before Leon.

The Seifen had been weakend because the people
lost their faith
and that was what kept him alive

Seifen gave Leon a propostion, if the war did
not end within 7 days he would give his final strength
to Leon in
the form of a destructive sword.

Nevertheless the war continued, and on the
7th day Leon recieved
the sword, the sword of Ultimatum.

He confronted SolidStrife in what was to be the final stand
of Leon's
troops and in one faithful swing of the sword the
entire nation of Solidstrife was gone.

The war was over, the people declared Leon their King.
But Leon saw the corruption of power he saw within
SolidStrife
And decided that he was to live a peaceful life.

He gave the Ultimatum to the Gods and told them to
never unleash
such a weapon again.


QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
also if you actually researched the word Ultimatum you would know why i named it that way,
again you did not pay any attention to my intro

Why should I research it? I know what it means. Maybe you should research it? There was a sword called Ultimatum, Seifen said "if the war doesn't finish in seven days, I'll give you the sword to help you win", seven days later he gets the sword and swings it and the entire nation of 'Solidstrife' was gone. There's no ultimatum, there's not even any mention of a conversation between Leon and 'SolidStrife'.

You didn't seem to pay attention to my post.
QUOTE (Rob_Riv @ Aug 27 2010, 01:59 PM) *
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.

Which specific points, out of the twenty that I made, are in question here?
Paper PokéMaster
@ SOLID
No one is going to read what it says because it's LAME to have a pointless intro like that. If you REALLY need that long intro, make there be a library with a history book in it.

Regardless of how long he's in the party, the dad needs to be a lower level. It is pointless and lame to have such a ridiculously high level party member at all.

You need to have an actual reason for things. It SHOULDN'T be in the intro, it should have an actual reason and explanation.

And, your post is ridiculously long because for some reason you thought it would be a brilliant idea to quote your entire post again and put a nonsensical sentence after.
Adrien.
QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 27 2010, 10:46 PM) *
ok fine my bad rob

but he clearly didnt pay attention to the little things
its like doing a book report on a book you never read

im not tryin to be rude im just defending my clause
i apologize if i offended anyone



It doesn't matter. By the looks of it he did read and play your game. he would not be able to give that much detailed feed back if he didn't.
Also, not caring here what the mods say, you NEED character bios, credits, screen shots, story and to follow the rules of this forum before posting a game. you can't just be like "OMGZ my l33t game try now!!!!" and leave it at that. we need more detail. whats the game about? what does it look like? who are the characters? what are there motives for the things they do? do you use scripts? what do your maps look like "Screen shots." Take a look at other peoples threads and see how they (most) have followed the rules.

Being rude to a mod is still a major thing, even if he is not a forum mod. Being rude to any one giving your advice is not going to get you very far.

~ You should care about what the mods say because backseat moderating is against the rules. Report the post instead please.
-Harryb412
SOLIDSTRIFER
QUOTE (Adrien. @ Aug 28 2010, 10:14 AM) *
QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 27 2010, 10:46 PM) *
ok fine my bad rob

but he clearly didnt pay attention to the little things
its like doing a book report on a book you never read

im not tryin to be rude im just defending my clause
i apologize if i offended anyone



It doesn't matter. By the looks of it he did read and play your game. he would not be able to give that much detailed feed back if he didn't.
Also, not caring here what the mods say, you NEED character bios, credits, screen shots, story and to follow the rules of this forum before posting a game. you can't just be like "OMGZ my l33t game try now!!!!" and leave it at that. we need more detail. whats the game about? what does it look like? who are the characters? what are there motives for the things they do? do you use scripts? what do your maps look like "Screen shots." Take a look at other peoples threads and see how they (most) have followed the rules.

Being rude to a mod is still a major thing, even if he is not a forum mod. Being rude to any one giving your advice is not going to get you very far.

im just sayin that you guys could have sugar coated it a bit =(
and its a W.I.P for CHRISTS SAKE!
its not even completed yet!
Adrien.
QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 12:12 PM) *
QUOTE (Adrien. @ Aug 28 2010, 10:14 AM) *
QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 27 2010, 10:46 PM) *
ok fine my bad rob

but he clearly didnt pay attention to the little things
its like doing a book report on a book you never read

im not tryin to be rude im just defending my clause
i apologize if i offended anyone



It doesn't matter. By the looks of it he did read and play your game. he would not be able to give that much detailed feed back if he didn't.
Also, not caring here what the mods say, you NEED character bios, credits, screen shots, story and to follow the rules of this forum before posting a game. you can't just be like "OMGZ my l33t game try now!!!!" and leave it at that. we need more detail. whats the game about? what does it look like? who are the characters? what are there motives for the things they do? do you use scripts? what do your maps look like "Screen shots." Take a look at other peoples threads and see how they (most) have followed the rules.

Being rude to a mod is still a major thing, even if he is not a forum mod. Being rude to any one giving your advice is not going to get you very far.

im just sayin that you guys could have sugar coated it a bit =(
and its a W.I.P for CHRISTS SAKE!
its not even completed yet!



doesn't matter if its not completed this is games under construction. what you want then is to ask a mod to move your game to game theory and design. Even then you still have to have specific details about your game, like what is the story, who are the characters? what are there motives for the things they do? who do credits go to for the scripts? screen shots?

Also its not about sugar coating things, its about being honest. Rob gave you his honest feed back on the game. and if you dont like it then tough cookies sun shine. This is the real world, your mom isn't going to sugar coat the truth, neither are your employers. So if you are going to start crying over serious feed back, to which i would suck up like a sponge, go back to the drawing board and reavluate then i dont think the real world is going to like you, never mind you it.

Capital letters for angry statements makes no sense. WIP or not you still need to provide these details. Again, maybe this is better suited for game theory and design where you can be like "I have this demo, its not yet completes, i dont have much story or characters could ya tell me what you think.

You need to learn to read the rules before posting.

also even if you do move this, people will still give you there UN SUGAR coated truth
The Rooster
"He didn't sugarcoat it" isn't even remotely close to a valid reason to ignore feedback and tell someone they're full of shit. Robin wasn't an ass about it, so unless your definition of horrible criticism is not telling you what was great about your game before and after listing your various fuck-ups, then no criticism will ever be enough, because if someone like Robin isn't telling you what you did well, chances are you didn't do anything well. But now you've caught my interest, and I guess soon enough you'll find out what real asshole criticism is.
Harryb412
Didn't add the required information to the thread in the 48 hours given, moving this to the appropriate forum -Game Theory and Design.
When you have the required information for this forum [check the rules and Regashi's post] PM me or another mod to get it moved back.
smile.gif
SOLIDSTRIFER
QUOTE (The Rooster @ Aug 28 2010, 02:23 PM) *
"He didn't sugarcoat it" isn't even remotely close to a valid reason to ignore feedback and tell someone they're full of shit. Robin wasn't an ass about it, so unless your definition of horrible criticism is not telling you what was great about your game before and after listing your various fuck-ups, then no criticism will ever be enough, because if someone like Robin isn't telling you what you did well, chances are you didn't do anything well. But now you've caught my interest, and I guess soon enough you'll find out what real asshole criticism is.

ok then bro and by the way I know how life can be a bitch as well, after all I'm currently enrolled in a university at this moment and yeah it's a bitch.
What i was looking for was a type of Inspiration from you people, all i got was a giant slap in the face.

But hey if thats how you guys treat a person who just wanted some advice then thats cool.

I just wished that you people approached this in a rather kinder tone considering the fact that I am a complete noob in this "business".
Paper PokéMaster
Rooster, you are too good at criticism. People like you write the best reviews. Dx

But, yeah SOLID, there's tons of game threads around here for you to take a look at and see what you should do with yours. But, yeah, it does seem like you have almost nothing right now, so your game would be better for Game Theory and Design.

GT&D is for games that haven't really started yet, and they're only in the planning phase. Even if they have a demo.

My game doesn't have demo, but it's here because I have everything done, planning-wise. wink.gif
punk_blood
i think all of you guys are kind of overreacting...

i mean sure i get the fact that SOLID wanted it a lil sugar coated..i think we all do cuz somebody telling you that your game sucks you should die doesnt really make somebody feel good about themselves (just an example dont freak out if you think im talking about you)

but also if someones giving you critisism you shouldnt freak out and call them an asshole or anything

so why dont we all calm down and get back on topic shall we?

i think it will be a promising game given time but id advise to make intro's a little shorter unless you have action orientated intros going on, and maybe work on the text a little bit too ... mappings ok and the characters are pretty ok too (may need work tho)

P.S: I WILL EDIT AND GIVE MORE FEEDBACK AS I PLAY
Paper PokéMaster
Yeah... I should probably play too. D:

But more people would be turned on to your game if there were screenshots and also a summary or something like that. ;D

EDIT: 200MB?! WTF?!
Maybe you should trim off some extra files and re-upload it. .___."
punk_blood
technically its 194MB smile.gif (i think... thats what it saya on mine)

but yeah you should try and get the useless or unneeded crap that your not using on this demo to cut some weight on the file
Legacy
QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
QUOTE (Zinx_therpgmaker @ Aug 26 2010, 10:51 PM) *
Epic tutorial litery. Yes it does get annoying testing the same thing over and over and over, but it will be worth it. My current project has been tested at least 50 times, minimum, just for 11 short levels.


how do i make screenshots?


use the "Ctrl+Alt + Printscreen(Prtscn)" button on the keyboard then open an imaging software (paint will do), then press "Ctrl + C" to paste it into paint, then save as something.PNG then upload to imageshack, or another image hosting site, and grab the url. Then on this site paste in the url between tags.


Okay, now onto the actual topic. Firstly before i even think about downloading a game, i like to read a little of the games story and see some screenshots. I like to know the story to see if it actually appeals to me enough to waste time on playing. I also like to see what characters i might see in the game and a little bit of information on them. So until i play this i would like to see some of the games story, some screen shots and maybe some character info's in the topic's 1 post.
Adrien.
QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 02:38 PM) *
QUOTE (The Rooster @ Aug 28 2010, 02:23 PM) *
"He didn't sugarcoat it" isn't even remotely close to a valid reason to ignore feedback and tell someone they're full of shit. Robin wasn't an ass about it, so unless your definition of horrible criticism is not telling you what was great about your game before and after listing your various fuck-ups, then no criticism will ever be enough, because if someone like Robin isn't telling you what you did well, chances are you didn't do anything well. But now you've caught my interest, and I guess soon enough you'll find out what real asshole criticism is.

ok then bro and by the way I know how life can be a bitch as well, after all I'm currently enrolled in a university at this moment and yeah it's a bitch.
What i was looking for was a type of Inspiration from you people, all i got was a giant slap in the face.

But hey if thats how you guys treat a person who just wanted some advice then thats cool.

I just wished that you people approached this in a rather kinder tone considering the fact that I am a complete noob in this "business".


Its not a business its a hobby. and its not that we didn't come at you with a tone were not here to hold your hand. you should try looking around at people maps, play a few games made by the program your using and what not.

We are not here to slap you in the face, but the way your taking even robs advice is like your being slapped in the face. We cannot tell you that your game is kick ass when in truthfully its a piece of a shit, a good piece of shit for a noob but none the less.

You need to step up, take a look at other peoples, ask questions and follow the forums rules.

Also:

I am a college student. what i meant earlier is that if your professor said "jony this paper sucks balls right me another one lest i fail you" would you cry about it like you are in this forum? no you would take his comments and crit he wrote on your paper and write another on.
Reshiram//Exe
"hen, a world filled with life and prosperity.
A world of great peace
The nations of this
world never fought with one another.

Until one day a dark force came upon a king
of one of these
nations, this man was only
known to the world as SolidStrife.

SolidStrife saw the world as a gift from
the Gods.
He then proceded
on to conquer this world with his vast army

Many villages were burned down, Innocent people were
slaughtered.

The people began to lose hope. All seemed to be lost.
Until one day
a young man by the name of Leon,rose up
against the tyrant.

Leon fought the evil king's army, but he could not do it
on his own.

The people saw this bravery and joined him in his
campaign of freedom
The warriors who fought alongside Leon
were seen as heroes

The people saw them as warriors of fate and
declared them the warriors of Destiny.

The Gods on the other hand saw them as
the warriors of Seifen, the creator of this
world.

Many battles were fought, and many a great warrior
perished.
Nevertheless Leon pressed on his fight.
Then Seifen came before Leon.

The Seifen had been weakend because the people
lost their faith
and that was what kept him alive

Seifen gave Leon a propostion, if the war did
not end within 7 days he would give his final strength
to Leon in
the form of a destructive sword.

Nevertheless the war continued, and on the
7th day Leon recieved
the sword, the sword of Ultimatum.

He confronted SolidStrife in what was to be the final stand
of Leon's
troops and in one faithful swing of the sword the
entire nation of Solidstrife was gone.

The war was over, the people declared Leon their King.
But Leon saw the corruption of power he saw within
SolidStrife
And decided that he was to live a peaceful life.

He gave the Ultimatum to the Gods and told them to
never unleash
such a weapon again. "

Leon? if you are going to reference final fantasy, CALL THEM BY THIER TRUE NAMES. Leon should be squall if you are referencing him.(Gunblade, badass jacket? Final fantasy 8?)
First of all, your intro is final fantasy, while i am a huge fan. It doesn't sound right unless "FINAL FANTASY" Is written, underlined and with the correct roman numeral next to it "Hopefully FINAL FANTASY XIV"
Solidstrife?!
First victim of the internet failure sayz WUT.
So, this lacks originality. coming from me, final fantasy names and intro ins't that good. Just a recipe for disaster.
We need screenshots, info and most of all WHAT THE HECK IS THE GAME ABOUT? You really need to provide more information in your threads. Not only that but your thread is a ABSOLUTE EYESORE.
Ultimatum sounds like a mix of the Ultima weapon and Tactiatum(was that the name) NO.JUST NO.
Holder
At the very least post up some information in the first post as to what everyone is going to be downloading.
Rob_Riv
QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 08:12 PM) *
im just sayin that you guys could have sugar coated it a bit =(
and its a W.I.P for CHRISTS SAKE!
its not even completed yet!

Are you going to respond to my post?
Vizierre
@Phantsmal: While I am sure you mean well with your criticism, Saying this person is an internet failure is not helpful at all. Keep in mind you were given countless amounts of criticism for your game and ideas. I can honestly say that you were given lots of helpful information and the majority of it was not negative. Keep in mind criticism is meant to help not to tear someone up. Afterall you wouldnt enjoy being called the same thing. So keep that in mind.

@solid: While I have not played the game, I would seriously consider the criticism that Rob had given. It sounds as though he gave you alot of feedback you should look into. Secondly sugar coating somthing such as criticism can be difficult at times, especially when you have a lot of work that needs to be done. Take what what was said and put it to work. Also dont be rude to those trying to help you. You wont get any help from people if you are rude to them, likewise people wont want to play your game. So give that a thought.
The Rooster
QUOTE
What i was looking for was a type of Inspiration from you people, all i got was a giant slap in the face
Let's look at the sequence of events, shall we?
-You post demo. Ask for feedback and say you want people to tell you if it's good or horrible
-Robin gives legitimate feedback on how to improve that was not at all dickish and shows he played your game
-You say he didn't
-People point out that he must have
-You complain people didn't give you the feedback you wanted, which was that your game was great and you should continue.

You didn't want inspiration, you outright said you wanted feedback. But you expected to be greeted with a parade in the streets, which sadly rightfully enough, you didn't get. And now you're complaining that people are being mean on the internet for not telling you your game is good.

QUOTE
I just wished that you people approached this in a rather kinder tone considering the fact that I am a complete noob in this "business".
He was perfectly civil in how he said things. If you mean every subsequent post; if you're going to be totally unresponsive to feedback, you don't get kind. You lose what varying degree of civility "I'm new, go easy on me" gets you when you, being new, complain when people tell you how to improve, because that means you're not out to improve and take their advice, which means you're going to very soon be far from new and roughly as good.

QUOTE
Leon? if you are going to reference final fantasy, CALL THEM BY THIER TRUE NAMES. Leon should be squall if you are referencing him.(Gunblade, badass jacket? Final fantasy 8?)
What are you talking about? Leon is a name. It's been a name for a long time. Nothing I've seen indicates it has anything to do with Final Fantasy. Why are you talking?

QUOTE
Ultimatum sounds like a mix of the Ultima weapon and Tactiatum(was that the name) NO.JUST NO.
Stop giving feedback. You are bad at it.
Adrien.
QUOTE (The Rooster @ Aug 28 2010, 05:00 PM) *
QUOTE
What i was looking for was a type of Inspiration from you people, all i got was a giant slap in the face
Let's look at the sequence of events, shall we?
-You post demo. Ask for feedback and say you want people to tell you if it's good or horrible
-Robin gives legitimate feedback on how to improve that was not at all dickish and shows he played your game
-You say he didn't
-People point out that he must have
-You complain people didn't give you the feedback you wanted, which was that your game was great and you should continue.

You didn't want inspiration, you outright said you wanted feedback. But you expected to be greeted with a parade in the streets, which sadly rightfully enough, you didn't get. And now you're complaining that people are being mean on the internet for not telling you your game is good.

QUOTE
I just wished that you people approached this in a rather kinder tone considering the fact that I am a complete noob in this "business".
He was perfectly civil in how he said things. If you mean every subsequent post; if you're going to be totally unresponsive to feedback, you don't get kind. You lose what varying degree of civility "I'm new, go easy on me" gets you when you, being new, complain when people tell you how to improve, because that means you're not out to improve and take their advice, which means you're going to very soon be far from new and roughly as good.

QUOTE
Leon? if you are going to reference final fantasy, CALL THEM BY THIER TRUE NAMES. Leon should be squall if you are referencing him.(Gunblade, badass jacket? Final fantasy 8?)
What are you talking about? Leon is a name. It's been a name for a long time. Nothing I've seen indicates it has anything to do with Final Fantasy. Why are you talking?

QUOTE
Ultimatum sounds like a mix of the Ultima weapon and Tactiatum(was that the name) NO.JUST NO.
Stop giving feedback. You are bad at it.


Oh I love how you slam two people at once into there place and not give a flying f$%k about it.
~ Not really relevent to the topic so is spam. Please try not to do this in future. smile.gif
-Harryb412
Reshiram//Exe
Squall Leonheart.
If he is going to rip off FF8, It should be a fangame.
Rob_Riv
QUOTE (Adrien. @ Aug 29 2010, 01:14 AM) *
Oh I love how you slam two people at once into there place and not give a flying f$%k about it.

If you don't have anything else to do except for backseat moderate and spam, why don't you just not post in this thread?

QUOTE (Phantsmal @ Aug 28 2010, 11:30 PM) *
First of all, your intro is final fantasy

Not really.

QUOTE (Phantsmal @ Aug 29 2010, 01:29 AM) *
Squall Leonheart.
If he is going to rip off FF8, It should be a fangame.

How is using Leon ripping off Final Fantasy VIII? You do know that Leon is a name, right?
Vizierre
QUOTE (Phantsmal @ Aug 28 2010, 06:29 PM) *
Squall Leonheart.
If he is going to rip off FF8, It should be a fangame.


Leon is perfectly legitimate name, and in no way being referenced to FF8. Had he used the name Squall then I would say there is a similarity. Secondly do not give feed back when you do not know what you are talking about. That is wrong. As rooster said , Why are you talking. You have your own game to worry about Phantsmal, please work on that, and let people who are more experienced in game development give feedback. Please and thank you.

Also forgive any typos, still getting used to my laptop keyboard.
Albino Parakeet
Juan Ponce de Leon (1460?-1521) was a Spanish explorer and soldier who was the first European to set foot in Florida. He also established the oldest European settlement in Puerto Rico and discovered the Gulf Stream (a current in the Atlantic Ocean). Ponce de Leon was searching for the legendary fountain of youth and other riches.

See? The name Leon was used back in the New World exploration. I have a strong feeling Final Fantasy wasn't around in the 14-1500s.
The Rooster
QUOTE
Squall Leonheart.
If he is going to rip off FF8, It should be a fangame.
Precisely my bloody point. All you have going for you is this intense obsession with Final Fantasy to the point you trace everything back to it by rather tenuous connections and assume you've latched onto the stream of logic they're using. Leon is a name. A valid name to give a character. Get over it, and while you're at it, get out of this thread. You contribute nothing but derail things because people with valid criticisms have to debunk this crap.
Adrien.
I do not see any reference to FF8 and I have played both this "game" if you will, and the FF8 game (not at the same time) and niether are related so how about you get some REAL proof.
Paper PokéMaster
Well, I hate to get on the Phant-rant-train, but...

@Phant
Leon is a legit name, just like everyone else says. And you have absolutely NO place to be whining about people using FF names.

Let's look at some examples from your game, shall we? I've bolded names that YOU stole from FF.
QUOTE
Redia (Rydia)
Tellar<----NOT a FF4 ripoff People. (Tellah)


I'm sure you've stolen all the other names from FF as well, but I've only played I, IV, and XIII, so I'm not very knowledgeable in the area of characters.

@SOLID
You sir are being very whiny. Someone gave you good criticism and you ignored it and said it was a "slap in the face" and that he could have "sugar-coated it."

Sugar-coating is worthless because it gives you the illusion that nothing's wrong.

You need more crap in this thread. You need to make your game better. That's the plain truth.

That's as nice as I can put it.
Adrien.
QUOTE (Paper PokéMaster @ Aug 28 2010, 05:16 PM) *
Well, I hate to get on the Phant-rant-train, but...

@Phant
Leon is a legit name, just like everyone else says. And you have absolutely NO place to be whining about people using FF names.

Let's look at some examples from your game, shall we? I've bolded names that YOU stole from FF.
QUOTE
Redia (Rydia)
Tellar<----NOT a FF4 ripoff People. (Tellah)


I'm sure you've stolen all the other names from FF as well, but I've only played I, IV, and XIII, so I'm not very knowledgeable in the area of characters.

@SOLID
You sir are being very whiny. Someone gave you good criticism and you ignored it and said it was a "slap in the face" and that he could have "sugar-coated it."

Sugar-coating is worthless because it gives you the illusion that nothing's wrong.

You need more crap in this thread. You need to make your game better. That's the plain truth.

That's as nice as I can put it.


I wont get into how much of an FF rip off some of his games really are because thats a flame war right there.

Want brutal honesty some serious down to earth honest solid? you suck. plain and simple, you suck because your new, we all sucked when we were knew, we had no idea what story was, character plot, we just had an idea and went with it. you have shit. your a puddle of dirty disgusting water . you want to get better? post information, ask for help and for god sakes take the crit people give you, because were all still learning. some of us are cleaner then others while others are still mud. we are a comunity who helps, not a comunity who shuns even when we should
Rob_Riv
QUOTE (Adrien. @ Aug 29 2010, 02:40 AM) *
Want brutal honesty some serious down to earth honest solid? you suck. plain and simple, you suck because your new, we all sucked when we were knew

If you don't have anything else to do except for backseat moderate and spam and flame, why don't you just not post in this thread?

I've given legitimate feedback, that is twenty points specifically related to the demo, and you keep posting, drowning my legitimate feedback with your pointless posts.

Demo Feedback
  • Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
  • ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
  • Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
  • Bad grammar.
  • I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
  • What is this I don't even...
  • Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
  • Lots of mapping errors.
  • What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
  • Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
  • Spelling mistakes
  • No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
  • So many mapping errors.
  • Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
  • This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
  • ...lots of capitals
  • Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
  • I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
  • Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?
Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

Yes.

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

My point wasn't about the fact that he was in your party, did you even read what anything says?

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

It doesn't say that in your intro.

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warrors, again you did not read the intro)

It doesn't say that in the intro. Again, you did not read the intro.


Your 346 word introduction.
Aithen, a world filled with life and prosperity.
A world of great peace
The nations of this
world never fought with one another.

Until one day a dark force came upon a king
of one of these
nations, this man was only
known to the world as SolidStrife.

SolidStrife saw the world as a gift from
the Gods.
He then proceded
on to conquer this world with his vast army

Many villages were burned down, Innocent people were
slaughtered.

The people began to lose hope. All seemed to be lost.
Until one day
a young man by the name of Leon,rose up
against the tyrant.

Leon fought the evil king's army, but he could not do it
on his own.

The people saw this bravery and joined him in his
campaign of freedom
The warriors who fought alongside Leon
were seen as heroes

The people saw them as warriors of fate and
declared them the warriors of Destiny.

The Gods on the other hand saw them as
the warriors of Seifen, the creator of this
world.

Many battles were fought, and many a great warrior
perished.
Nevertheless Leon pressed on his fight.
Then Seifen came before Leon.

The Seifen had been weakend because the people
lost their faith
and that was what kept him alive

Seifen gave Leon a propostion, if the war did
not end within 7 days he would give his final strength
to Leon in
the form of a destructive sword.

Nevertheless the war continued, and on the
7th day Leon recieved
the sword, the sword of Ultimatum.

He confronted SolidStrife in what was to be the final stand
of Leon's
troops and in one faithful swing of the sword the
entire nation of Solidstrife was gone.

The war was over, the people declared Leon their King.
But Leon saw the corruption of power he saw within
SolidStrife
And decided that he was to live a peaceful life.

He gave the Ultimatum to the Gods and told them to
never unleash
such a weapon again.


QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
also if you actually researched the word Ultimatum you would know why i named it that way,
again you did not pay any attention to my intro

Why should I research it? I know what it means. Maybe you should research it? There was a sword called Ultimatum, Seifen said "if the war doesn't finish in seven days, I'll give you the sword to help you win", seven days later he gets the sword and swings it and the entire nation of 'Solidstrife' was gone. There's no ultimatum, there's not even any mention of a conversation between Leon and 'SolidStrife'.

You didn't seem to pay attention to my post.
QUOTE (Rob_Riv @ Aug 27 2010, 01:59 PM) *
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.

Which specific points, out of the twenty that I made, are in question here?
literarygoth
How about some frikken positive feeback/C&C from the community huh?
This isn't the first thread that I've come across where a complete noob to RPG Maker has posted their new project which they put time and effort into and they've been blasted by virtually everyone.
Way to encourage the new users people, congrats!

Yes I was blunt in my original post, HOWEVER I gave the kid some useful suggestions.
To us, it may not seem like he put much effort into it - which is understandable given some of the games created by other more experienced users. Remember, we all were noobs once too!
Once upon a time, we didn't know how to map properly either.

Yes, his game needs help - so offer some suggestions instead of flaming him.
Wouldn't you get defensive if you posted something you were proud of and then everyone ripped it to shreds laughing at your hard work and calling you a complete moron? Put the shoe on the other foot for Christ's sake.
How can these users improve at all if all we're doing is stripping them?
Harryb412
What LiteraryGoth said.
Seriously guys, there is contructive critism and then there is this.
We were all new once and can't expect everyone to be on your level of RM'ing.
markchapman10
Ok so when Strifer fisrt got to the forums i had told him i would do some mapping for him... we have kept in contact and i downloaded the demo, and this is what ive come up with..... i know its an improvement and strifer dont get mad at me, im just doing what you asked me to do..... the blue print cbasic layout of the map is still the same...



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Lurvid
Mark, question: If that house is just 1 tile high, how does it make sense that there is a 2 tile high dresser? This is kinda why it's suggested that buildings in RMXP are at least 2 tiles high. Though I like your mapping.
markchapman10
QUOTE (Lurvid @ Aug 31 2010, 12:44 PM) *
Mark, question: If that house is just 1 tile high, how does it make sense that there is a 2 tile high dresser? This is kinda why it's suggested that buildings in RMXP are at least 2 tiles high. Though I like your mapping.



thank you, i missed that, i didnt want to change his map that much so most of the furnature that was in there, i put back in there,, and thank you for the compliment....
Paper PokéMaster
Yes, I think that one-tile-high buildings is just for outside.

When you're inside, buildings should be at least two tiles high, if that makes sense.

It might be a little easier to get a better opinion on the map if you posted a screenshot of the whole thing?
Right now, we can only see a very small amount.
markchapman10
QUOTE (Paper PokéMaster @ Aug 31 2010, 02:35 PM) *
Yes, I think that one-tile-high buildings is just for outside.

When you're inside, buildings should be at least two tiles high, if that makes sense.

It might be a little easier to get a better opinion on the map if you posted a screenshot of the whole thing?
Right now, we can only see a very small amount.

If you really want me to i will, but imma going to put the demo back up with redone maps, i done talked to Strifer. He would like to see it to... We have a deal worked out....... Oh yea, and Strifer, i dont want no spaical credit, i would like to be in your game though... just pm me cause i have a character and face set already.... I will give credit to someone though i seen it somewhere on one of the threads on here where someone sisnt want credit but to be in the game and he posted a sprite in his sig, lol.... That was an awsome idea.....
Paper PokéMaster
... Putting the game's creators in a game as actual, non-hidden characters is not something I like, but whatever. tongue.gif

And you overuse ... Use it less, please? happy.gif

Also, I again say, shave off any unused/unneeded files. 194 MB is too much. You can make a copy of the games folder and delete all unnecessary files to keep what you already have but isn't in the demo.

I will download/play when you've made the filesize smaller. happy.gif ~♪
Rob_Riv
QUOTE (markchapman10 @ Sep 1 2010, 06:05 AM) *
Oh yea, and Strifer, i dont want no spaical credit, i would like to be in your game though... just pm me cause i have a character and face set already....

Whatt? Why can't you just be credited? I wonder if you mean that you want to be a character in that awful part of the introduction that breaks the fourth wall.

Still no reply to this post.

Demo Feedback
  • Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
  • ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
  • Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
  • Bad grammar.
  • I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
  • What is this I don't even...
  • Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
  • Lots of mapping errors.
  • What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
  • Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
  • Spelling mistakes
  • No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
  • So many mapping errors.
  • Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
  • This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
  • ...lots of capitals
  • Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
  • I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
  • Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?
Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

Yes.

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

My point wasn't about the fact that he was in your party, did you even read what anything says?

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

It doesn't say that in your intro.

QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warrors, again you did not read the intro)

It doesn't say that in the intro. Again, you did not read the intro.


Your 346 word introduction.
Aithen, a world filled with life and prosperity.
A world of great peace
The nations of this
world never fought with one another.

Until one day a dark force came upon a king
of one of these
nations, this man was only
known to the world as SolidStrife.

SolidStrife saw the world as a gift from
the Gods.
He then proceded
on to conquer this world with his vast army

Many villages were burned down, Innocent people were
slaughtered.

The people began to lose hope. All seemed to be lost.
Until one day
a young man by the name of Leon,rose up
against the tyrant.

Leon fought the evil king's army, but he could not do it
on his own.

The people saw this bravery and joined him in his
campaign of freedom
The warriors who fought alongside Leon
were seen as heroes

The people saw them as warriors of fate and
declared them the warriors of Destiny.

The Gods on the other hand saw them as
the warriors of Seifen, the creator of this
world.

Many battles were fought, and many a great warrior
perished.
Nevertheless Leon pressed on his fight.
Then Seifen came before Leon.

The Seifen had been weakend because the people
lost their faith
and that was what kept him alive

Seifen gave Leon a propostion, if the war did
not end within 7 days he would give his final strength
to Leon in
the form of a destructive sword.

Nevertheless the war continued, and on the
7th day Leon recieved
the sword, the sword of Ultimatum.

He confronted SolidStrife in what was to be the final stand
of Leon's
troops and in one faithful swing of the sword the
entire nation of Solidstrife was gone.

The war was over, the people declared Leon their King.
But Leon saw the corruption of power he saw within
SolidStrife
And decided that he was to live a peaceful life.

He gave the Ultimatum to the Gods and told them to
never unleash
such a weapon again.


QUOTE (SOLIDSTRIFER @ Aug 28 2010, 05:33 AM) *
also if you actually researched the word Ultimatum you would know why i named it that way,
again you did not pay any attention to my intro

Why should I research it? I know what it means. Maybe you should research it? There was a sword called Ultimatum, Seifen said "if the war doesn't finish in seven days, I'll give you the sword to help you win", seven days later he gets the sword and swings it and the entire nation of 'Solidstrife' was gone. There's no ultimatum, there's not even any mention of a conversation between Leon and 'SolidStrife'.

You didn't seem to pay attention to my post.
QUOTE (Rob_Riv @ Aug 27 2010, 01:59 PM) *
  • You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.

Which specific points, out of the twenty that I made, are in question here?
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