SojaBird
Dec 29 2008, 06:09 AM
Hey all,Since I've been on the forum, it seems that people are desperate to learn to script. Now when I came here, I also wanted to know a little about it, but coudn't find realy much like tutorials or what so ever. So I figured out I had to do it all by myself...Though, it was a pain in the @ss! So therefor I though I could help all those other people out, who want the same thing as me,
Learning to script!The way I want to do this, is by creating a podcast. In this podcast I'll discuss several scripting languages/methodes, wich are the following:
- RGSS2 (RPGmakerVX)
- HTML/CSS (Web)
- ActionScript 2.0 (Flash)
Though the biggest part will be about RGSS2, since that's the one I'm most skilled in.
Now before I'll go work myself in sweat, I want to get a better view of howmany people are interested in this podcast, sinces it's going to take a lot of effort and time. I don't want to make podcasts for like only a couple of people that can be counted on a pair of hands. Therefor this topic.
If you like this idea of a script-teaching podcast, you may reply in the topic. Also you may place the banner in your sig, so that more people get to know this topic, so that it catch their attention as well. The more people want this idea to come true, the faster it will come!
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Oke so here's a little update.
It's been a while allready since I though of this idea.
I've been creating a site but didn't do anything with it for a long time (probabely because it was ugly (
check it out @ this place).
So since I'm a student of a creative design study, I realy need to have all graphics and things to look good.
That's also a reason why I take so long with everything.
Now, I learned scripting all by myself so that I could improve my games and flash-videos with some more nice looking transitions and that kinda stuff.
So all my scripting is actualy graphics based so that's also something you guys should know before your gonna expect me to make a total awsome battle-system or what so ever...I can, but I won't (perhaps just a little).
So anyway, the reason why I'm doing this is that I want to let new people know that the site is allready up and keeps updating till I'm satisfied.
Here's the link.Greatzz,
SojaBird.
Feel free to copy the code from the box and past it in your sig!
CODE
[url=http://www.rpgrevolution.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=25307][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v401/pim321/Podcast.png[/img][/url]
BlueEagle7
Dec 29 2008, 06:31 AM
That would be fantastic, but I'm working with XP. I would still be interested with Action Script though. Can you use that with XP?
SojaBird
Dec 29 2008, 09:26 AM
Nope...ActionScript can't be used with XP or any other RPG maker (I guess). It's Flash only, as far as I know.
Thanks anyway, you're the first on the list!

Please be free to put the banner in your sig, just copy the code from the codebox and past it in your sig. With it, everyone will know that you want this podcast to be realised. As well that they can support the podcast too. In that way I'll be more motivated to get it on tracks!
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
SkyGuardian
Dec 29 2008, 10:05 AM
Sounds like a great idea Sojabird, if I was good at scripting I would help.
I have learned a lot about HTML in the past few years so I could help you out on that if it's needed.
And maybe I can learn more about the scripting of RGSS.
Endar
Dec 29 2008, 10:45 AM
Deffinitely (I know I spelled it wrong, I'm norwegian, OK?) something I would download, as good tutorials are hard to find and often the worlds most effective sleeping medicine. At least with RGSS2, as I don't understand a sh*t of what I'm reading
BigEd781
Dec 29 2008, 10:50 AM
If you need contributors I don't mind helping.
I would suggest editing the first post a bit though, as RGSS/2 and HTML are not scripting languages. RGSS/2 is an API written in ruby, and HTML is a mark up language, i.e., not a programming language. Anyhow, I think it sounds good.
Stilleas
Dec 29 2008, 10:53 AM
My main problem with learning RGSS has been that every tutorial or bit of help on the entire Internet seems to want to discuss the very basics of Ruby, and then leave you at that. So as it stands I have a good basic understanding of how things work in Ruby, but I don't know how anything works in RPG Maker's actual scripts. Laaaaaaaame...
BigEd781
Dec 29 2008, 11:06 AM
QUOTE (Stilleas @ Dec 29 2008, 10:53 AM)

My main problem with learning RGSS has been that every tutorial or bit of help on the entire Internet seems to want to discuss the very basics of Ruby, and then leave you at that. So as it stands I have a good basic understanding of how things work in Ruby, but I don't know how anything works in RPG Maker's actual scripts. Laaaaaaaame...
If you know ruby you should have no problem learning how the API works. The real problem is that you know how to do things like declare a variable or create a new method, but you don't understand the more core programming concepts (like object oriented design principles) which you need to really understand how things are working.
SojaBird
Dec 29 2008, 11:08 AM
Hey,
Thanks all for the quick reactions.
I hope this is going to be nice

Greatzz,
SojaBird.
killerrin
Dec 29 2008, 11:49 AM
vandelfan
Dec 29 2008, 01:13 PM
that's a great idea sojabird(or pim...), count me in, although I know almost nothing about scripting, hehe
jens009
Dec 29 2008, 01:17 PM
This sounds like a good idea. We ought to try it! =D
SojaBird
Dec 30 2008, 04:34 AM
Yea,
It sounds like it's going to be real!
Just a few more and I will start making all the preperations for the take-off of:
Scriptania, the ScriptingPodcast
ToDoList:
- Name (perhaps Scriptania, the ScriptingPodcast sucks a little)
- Logo
- Blog/Webpage (perhaps with some donations/merchandise sold, I'll be able to buy a real site, one we'll be making in a HTML episode of the Podcast)
- Schedual (how many times a week/month a new episode)
- Subjects (the basic, more advanced or both? pure scripting or more design (I'm a designer from nature)?)
- Style (am I going to make it alone, or will I invite some other scripters in my podcast as well?)
And that's only for a start...
So keep supporting me, and I'll do my best.
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
ps. If you come up with a cool name for the podcast, pls share it with us
Night5h4d3
Dec 30 2008, 08:32 AM
QUOTE
ps. If you come up with a cool name for the podcast, pls share it with us smile.gif
I'm just gonna throw out what comes to mind:
script sanctum (meh, doesn't sound all that great once its typed)
scripter's sanctum (kinda the same as above)
scripture (ooh, looks like I've been "PUN"ished >_<)
scriptorium (sadly, I stole that out of a dictionary...)
scriptology (O.O the study of scripts!)
scriptanium (>_> umm, 3 parts script, 1 part podcasting, 2 parts odd: S3PO2)
Schedual: how about:
1st week: HTML/CSS
2nd week: RGSS2
3rd week: Actionscript
4th week: review & preview
??
It's entirely up to you though, i just want to save you a little time.
Subjects:
how about start out basic, and get advanced as you go along? or have 2 podcasts for each subject,
and have them be hard and basic?
P.S. I would really like to help anyway possible, I learned RGSS from just the help file, and
a week after starting RGSS2 I have the same skill on both. but, the problem is that I've got
neither a microphone or a webcam or any sort of camcorder at all, so anything i could do would
have to be using a screen-recorder(I've got Camtasia) or something 'behind the scenes.'
(and, I'd definatly listen into HTML/CSS and ActionScript)
AmIMeYet
Dec 30 2008, 08:54 AM
How about a free website? (PHP, MySQL, everything) I know of a few great free hosts, (take my website for example).
If you'll settle on free, pm me for details.
As for the name, this was all I could think of:
'I can has Script', but that really aint so great.
As for the logo; that's easy once you have a name.
Tip: *LOGO CONTEST*
Also, I know of a great free (yes I know, I'm cheap) screen recorder, so other's can contribute, without having to pay for it.
So basically, the only investment would be time. Then again, time = money, so .. argh.. nevermind..
SojaBird
Dec 30 2008, 03:42 PM
Hey Dutch pal,
Nice you want to support this as well

(I listed you on the partisipants list)
I wanted to start free at first, though later on I realy would like to go profesional with this.
It's still a trial in the beginning. I'm actualy not sure if I'm cut for this job as podcast host

hehe, though I'll try.
I thought to start with a simple thing like blogger or something to post my first couple of podcasts. After that, I would like to go real "online" with an prof. site, made in HTML ofcoarse

perhaps one where all the listeners could upload their on CSS file or so...That would be nice.
Anyway, thanks for the support.
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
PS:
And about the logo, a contenst would be nice.
I'll try making one myself as well, since I just learned it at school (previous block)
Dusk noun
Dec 30 2008, 03:53 PM
I think i could help a bit. 1st you should know some things 'bout the 3 languages:
- HTML is markup language, it doesn't work for programs, and most people doesn't spend time to learnt it. They use some editors and they make it easily. I don't know many people who builds a webpage with notepad (I include myself), but i consider those editors may and often shall fill the page with unneccesary tags and you'll find up with an html file of 100 kb in default styles or default metta tags, someones are needed to some navigators but at the moment, the ie 7 or the firefox 3 can read HTML 4.0 or at least 3.5. I know some people don't understand nothing. Making it with notepad will be useful to have a clean page. But HTML isn't much useful without at least the dynamic. That's the programming side, the javascript. If you want to make a searcher you'll need it, or to make a simple onmouseover (an image changes of size when you put the mouse on it). I know HTML and i'm learning DHTML, you can count on me to solve some problems but you must think what will you put about HTML.
And the CSS is only the style, when you're very specific you load a file but that's a Dynamic HTML tag <style>. Don't treat it as another language.
- RGSS is NOT a language, the language is ruby, and RGSS is the amount of scripts that are as default in XP, and RGSS2 the ones of VX.
Ruby is a programming language, but also a markup one. The tutorials only put how to define variables because (i think) they took the structure of the tutorial of one of Visual Basic or C++. A program is made by a programming language which controls the proccess and usually a markup one (like HTML or XML) to put the texts on the screen. But here ruby makes those 2 things, so it needs another part to show you how to edit windows or the spriteset. I'm learning ruby so you can ask, when this starts i'll do a few sugestions in this part. OH and this tutorials aren't designed to make you a master scripter, i don't know why are they for but don't expect to be a master of ruby once you've learnt them. And if you don't understand them, you won't go so far in programming languages. Normally or at least what i have aroung me, is a class making know the basics of every program language and when you have those minimal notions WEEL UNDERSTOOD, you specialize on a language.
Ah, for those who only know how to define variables in ruby, this is to make a text appear on the screen
self.contents.draw_text(x position, y position, width, height, "text to appear")
And you must write it inside a class.
-About Action script, i know very little so i can't say anything. You can't count on me for this.
SojaBird
Dec 30 2008, 04:42 PM
Well thanks for your opinion Dusk noun.
You've realy showed me a con, a diffeculty of making this podcast work, what should I include in the podcast, and what should I not.
That's also a thing why I want to know how may people are interested and what they think of it...
So actualy I'll do a aditionals request...
What do you (ppl who are interested) want to hear, see, learn from the podcast?
Thanks for the feedback.
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
Vascious
Dec 30 2008, 04:59 PM
This sounds like a good idea

it would be nice to be able to create some menu screens like MOG's but more customizable or like in Fire Emblem 9 where you can have more facesets up during a cutscene and have the talking person be "highlighted" while the non speaking people are darker.
SojaBird
Dec 30 2008, 05:09 PM
Yep that's totaly doable.
I think I'll start off with the very basics of Ruby (rgss2), so that I can make it very easy to step in, and realy make something that works.
That's a goal I want to achieve for the first say 3 podcasts I think.
So I defenitly want to see some results after that

Greatzz and thanks for your responds and support,
SojaBird.
Chronno
Dec 30 2008, 05:58 PM
i'm not sure about what a podcast is but if you're telling me that i will learn more about scripting i'm in
Knoll318
Dec 30 2008, 06:31 PM
I'd so listen to that! But are you going to explain the RGSS/2 API assuming you understand Ruby, or are you also going to cover Ruby?
SojaBird
Dec 31 2008, 12:17 AM
Hey Chronno,
Hey Knoll318.
A podcast is a sort of a radiobroadcasting, only online wich enables it to be listend at anytime
you like. Normaly you could only listen to something at a specific time, but with podcasting
your time is the limit

For the explaning of Ruby...I'm actualy going to explain rgss2, wich is made with the ruby language...so ruby is going to be learned. However, I'll do it with the use of rgss2. So we will going something like create a nice rpg maker vx script together.
Thanks for your support,
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
Valnar
Dec 31 2008, 01:01 AM
I whould be in,too
SojaBird
Dec 31 2008, 01:21 AM
Hey Valnar,
Thanks for your reply,
I realy appriciate all your support.
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
AmIMeYet
Dec 31 2008, 02:26 AM
What about a wiki? Or some other CMS? Or just a simple forum?
As for blogging sites, we could put that on a website, but I'd reccomend a CMS, as this has a much wider range of uses, and this can use a kind of built in forum, so everyone could send in their files, as attachments.. something I don't think blogging kits do.
I made a mock up site a year ago or something, wich uses Joomla (CMS) + FireBoard (FORUM)... and I think that combo could really work out, if propperly handled ofcourse.
SojaBird
Dec 31 2008, 02:31 AM
Yea well that sounds indeed very helpfull, the file uploading and things...perhaps just a forum as this would do, it could be quite oke I think.
I'll checkout those Joomla and FireBoard ya're talking about.
Thanks for the info.
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
SojaBird
Jan 6 2009, 03:14 PM
Bumpo
killerrin
Jan 9 2009, 05:56 PM
QUOTE (pim321 @ Jan 6 2009, 04:14 PM)

Bumpo
hey man are you still doing this because in almost every post i have seen the, let the podcast be a fact pic+link in their signiture
icecold49
Jan 9 2009, 09:14 PM
Wow, this is a great topic pim321. I always wanted to learn RGSS2 so I can make my own awesome scripts like the pro scripters on the forum (like you). I am totally interested in the scripting podcast idea and I hope I can start learning to script soon. Thanks for stepping up to help us n00bs out.
Genshyu
Jan 9 2009, 09:16 PM
I want in. I really need to learn it, I'm trying to learn it on my own but eyahm it is a MAJOR pain in the @ss lik eyou said.
SojaBird
Jan 10 2009, 04:12 AM
Hey guys,
Thanks for joining in (and putting the 'thing' in your sigs).
I'm going to take some preperations as soon as I finish my school stuff on friday that is.
After that, you can expect some more info...I'm starting to make a site or blog for it then so it's a fac, the podcast is comming

Keep a sharp eye, their'll be more friday

Greatzz,
SojaBird.
carbajosa
Jan 10 2009, 09:04 AM
Wow! I really want to learn RGSS2 for a long time~ And now, this might be a chance to learn!
This is a very good idea
Kinger556
Jan 10 2009, 10:02 AM
Wow, this is a great idea!!!! i cant wait to see it happen
SojaBird
Jan 11 2009, 04:38 AM
Haha nice,

I hope to have more info friday

Greatzz,
SojaBird.
Endar
Jan 11 2009, 04:49 AM
This is a great idea. Who knows, maybe even I can learn to script then
SojaBird
Jan 11 2009, 03:15 PM
Haha, I hope you can
I'll try my best to get things working.
Friday will be the day my man, I'll start-up a website by then.
I'll post the info here by then

Greatzz,
SojaBird.
FaytSaratome
Jan 11 2009, 03:57 PM
I'm up for the idea. I hardly learn from books and the stuff that is offically made. I learn easier from users like y'all also from when I can ask questions. This is great.
woratana
Jan 11 2009, 09:54 PM
I'm really interesting in this~!
And I'm sure many people will find this useful!
Good luck >_>/
SojaBird
Jan 12 2009, 09:01 AM
Haha thanks,
I think I'm going to need it Wora

haha
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
SojaBird
Jan 12 2009, 03:11 PM
Just a little update
I've made the linkname allready...wich includes the name of the podcast.
It's going to be
ScriptologyThe link will be
www.scriptology.co.nr, the mailadress info.scriptology*@*gmail.com (without the *start-thingies*).
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
vandelfan
Jan 12 2009, 06:16 PM
cool, that means this is for real!
I'm really looking forward to it
Oh, and scriptology sounds like the ancient art of scripting or the archeological brach dedicated to discover scripting, but either way it's great!!!
Genshyu
Jan 12 2009, 09:56 PM
Lol when I click that link, for some reson it leads me to my Gmail o.o.
SojaBird
Jan 13 2009, 12:49 AM
Hehe yea indeed.
Since I don't have a website now (friday I will), I had to link it to a valid site, wich was going to be gmail

It's for real now.
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
AmIMeYet
Jan 13 2009, 02:04 AM
Scriptology link to gmail currently replaced with a link to (the discontinued) spores-adventure site,
because of certain website demands by the domain holder.
So, don't mind the content right now...
I'll see if I can create a temporary page in the afternoon (it's 11 AM over here, and I'm bound for school),
but until then, there's no need to follow the link to scriptology.co.nr; it's just a dummy page...
Also, the name was thought up by enix2, so I think we're gonna have to add a credits page...
EDIT: Ok, temporary page online... Ironically though, as soon as I uploaded the file, the server admins started checking my website for malicious content...
I'll report back as soon as this is fixed..
EDIT2: Ok, it's fixed now... took longer than expected.. Will contact Pim321 so he can update the link...
EDIT3: Ok, the new page is up and routed to...
SojaBird
Jan 16 2009, 07:35 AM
Hey all...
And realy welcome to the post that tells all of you that Scriptology is being under construction.
I'm preparing myself to get it on the roll so that all of you and more are able to get some scripting knowledge.
I'm currently working on the main starting features such as the website and a logo.
Offcourse all tips are more that welcome so that I can concentrate on some other things that need to be take care off before I can realy start.
Anyway, thanks for the support so far.
I hope to meet you in one of my hopefully soon upcomming podcasttutorials.
Greatzz,
SojaBird.
AmIMeYet
Jan 17 2009, 05:20 AM
Hey all,
This is another status update:
We're currently setting up the main website.. the server account has been all set up, and we're now making the content..
We're not going to give you the link just yet, because we want to present you with a pretty much finished website...
We're also still trying to figure out how to handle certain things on the website....
I will update this post with the progress..
19/01/08:
-Sojabird is working really hard on the website design; AmIMeYet will help out with the podcast page, when that will be developed..
-AmIMeYet pretty much finished the costum flv player (jay!), now just working out a color scheme to match the website..
Greetings,
AmIMeYet
PS: Wow, talking in the 3rd person is really weird..
SojaBird
Jan 18 2009, 05:37 AM
As for the info...AmIMeYet is helping me with the site and all since I'm not that good with servers and all.
(I can do html/css though

)
We're on the good way

Greatzz,
SojaBird.
kaleygatore
Jan 18 2009, 11:38 AM
finally,

this is exactly what i lookin for
yess,i am desperate enough about learning this whole script thing,

*stupid me*
this might be a great help
(oh..i can't wait,i can't wait,i can't wait haha

)
well,i wish u all the best ...
(sorry for my bad english)
SojaBird
Jan 18 2009, 03:40 PM
Haha well thanks kaleygatore for you happy response.
These kind of messages make me concentrate better

Thanks, I hope to soo you soon

Greatzz,
SojaBird.
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