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Jens of Zanicuud
post Jul 28 2012, 12:30 AM
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Some times ago I was working on a project (now dismissed - or rather, waiting for my current project completion) which was designed to end badly, with the death of every character in the party (this was however related to the plot).

I've seen quite a few RPG with a default (i.e. not optional) bad ending (FFXIII-2 / KH Birth by Sleep - if we can call their ending bad), so I wonder if it's a taboo to make your game ends in a tragic way, or simply players prefer an happy ending to every game they play, since they are playing not to think to their problems...

What's your point about it?
Would you play/create a game with a tragic ending (not optional - main ending)?

If so, why?

That's a feature I've never found in a RPG Maker game (excluding maybe survival horror...)
If you know some link 'bout that, I'd be pleased to give it a look.

Maybe my project will resurrect, who knows?

Jens


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post Jul 29 2012, 04:01 AM
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QUOTE ([b]rewells[/b] @ Jul 29 2012, 03:15 AM) *

So again, I emphasize, if an "everyone dies" ending adds relevance to the theme, that can be really powerful. But if it's just thrown in for the sake of surprise, it pisses me off.


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'Jonnie19[/b]' date='Jul 29 2012, 09:05 AM' post='565154']
TL;DR: Go ahead and do it, there is too many happy go lucky stories around. But remember to develop your characters and world so much that the player can become eveloped in the world...so much that WHEN it happens. The player can really feel it. and do not under any circumstances bring the player back to life, in a equal...or later in the game. It's just stupid. Plain and simple stupid.


I agree with both of you. I'd have never planned to revive (urgh!) a character (it's something I actually HATE too! A dead character is dead.)
Again, I didn't intend to use a surprise for surprise's sake. I just thought to give some hints during the game, hidden here and there, something mostly ignored by the characters as pointless news and facts, which, if read in a different way, could give the true key to understand the game.

I found another example ofgame filled with bad endings: 999, Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors. There's only one "happy" ending.
However, there are something like three "you die" bad endings, one "everyone dies" bad ending, one "some character die ending" and a "to be continued" fake ending.
Yes, I felt frustrated while finding the "you die" and the "everyone dies" endings, but this made me play that game another time to obtain the true ending.

Maybe I could do something similar...
Thanks again for your comments, I really appreciated every replies.
Thanks MagitekElite and MEands too. You are right 'bout that, but I'll probably take that idea back and develop a short game when I complete Tryadine Effect.

Jens

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- Jens of Zanicuud   Bad Endings   Jul 28 2012, 12:30 AM
- - rewells   I like feeling accomplished after beating a game. ...   Jul 28 2012, 02:23 AM
|- - Jens of Zanicuud   I've played Finding Eden and remember the endi...   Jul 28 2012, 03:36 AM
|- - rewells   QUOTE (Jens of Zanicuud @ Jul 28 2012, 07...   Jul 28 2012, 05:15 PM
- - MEands   The frustration of having the characters die at th...   Jul 28 2012, 02:41 PM
- - MagitekElite   I agree with the others. However, endings with so...   Jul 28 2012, 02:51 PM
- - Jonnie19   I am going to start this reply by mentioning somet...   Jul 28 2012, 11:05 PM
- - shaddowval   I realize that there are a lot of answers to this ...   Jul 29 2012, 08:36 AM
|- - rewells   QUOTE (shaddowval @ Jul 29 2012, 12:36 PM...   Jul 29 2012, 09:42 PM
- - amerk   To Jonnie: Why couldn't Tidus have been modele...   Jul 30 2012, 01:20 PM
|- - obsorber   Yes a bad ending is disappointing for the player a...   Jul 31 2012, 04:47 AM
|- - Jonnie19   QUOTE (amerk @ Jul 30 2012, 09:20 PM) To ...   Aug 1 2012, 10:05 PM
- - KD648   I wouldn't mind a tragic ending to a videogame...   Jul 31 2012, 07:13 AM
|- - Jens of Zanicuud   I'm generally not for mainstream games, but yo...   Aug 1 2012, 12:53 AM
- - Stalin the stallion   Main ending must never be bad. Bittersweet, maybe,...   Sep 8 2012, 09:36 AM
- - TheCableGuy   Romeo and Juliet is probably the best known Ending...   Sep 8 2012, 09:58 PM
|- - amerk   QUOTE (TheCableGuy @ Sep 9 2012, 12:58 AM...   Sep 9 2012, 03:16 PM
|- - rewells   QUOTE (TheCableGuy @ Sep 9 2012, 01:58 AM...   Sep 11 2012, 07:18 PM
|- - Jens of Zanicuud   QUOTE (rewells @ Sep 12 2012, 05:18 AM) B...   Sep 12 2012, 12:14 AM
- - Saul95   I also can't stand the bad endings, but the po...   Sep 8 2012, 10:19 PM
- - Stalin the stallion   Bad ending CAN be acceptable in prequels, where al...   Sep 9 2012, 03:05 AM
- - Shaddowval   Actually an XBOX360 series of turned based strateg...   Sep 9 2012, 03:50 PM
- - bulmabriefs144   I haven't a problem with human death of old ag...   Sep 10 2012, 05:36 PM
- - Clord   Corpse Party is a good example. In the final chapt...   Oct 1 2012, 05:53 AM
- - LockeZ   A lot of this is Game As Fantasy vs. Game As Drama...   Nov 4 2012, 10:11 PM
- - markchapman10   to reply to the OP, it don't matter to me as l...   Nov 4 2012, 10:32 PM
- - Naridar   QUOTE (LockeZ @ Nov 5 2012, 07:11 AM) If ...   Dec 31 2012, 11:53 AM
- - Gospel Knight   As far as how bad endings go in Video Games, I kno...   Jan 1 2013, 04:57 AM
- - Shaddowval   I think some people are misunderstanding what this...   Jan 1 2013, 01:06 PM
|- - Jens of Zanicuud   QUOTE (Shaddowval @ Jan 1 2013, 10:06 PM)...   Jan 2 2013, 09:17 AM
- - LockeZ   It kind of is against the rules, is the thing. Th...   Jan 4 2013, 04:52 PM
- - Jens of Zanicuud   @LockeZ Okay, what I meant to say is: during the ...   Jan 8 2013, 10:04 AM
- - LockeZ   Ah, hmm. The thing about an ending like that is, ...   Jan 8 2013, 12:35 PM


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