Mass Effect 3 (Ending Debates), Spoilers inside! Options

[Licentia Per Ori...]

@Sparrow
Damn lol. I mean...yeah who am I fooling? the video was very convincing! lmao.
But hey, like you said, we'll find out if we were wrong or not. And no, I don't think
I'm better than the fans, but my opinion is among many.

I was talking to this guy down below. Nothing wrong with believing the Indoc theory, but he was a smartass about it. Like he was the fecking messiah of video games come to save us from an otherwise pitifully unfulfilling existence.
At least he's making reasons now, that's an improvement.

So, in the "gasping for breath" scene in the end of the game, the scene you get if you choose the destruction ending and have enough military force (Over 5000, if i'm not mistaken) shows Shepard gasping for breath IN THE CITADEL. Which disproves the base of the Indoctrination theory, since, as I stated previously, he would need to have woken up on Earth for the theory to be even remotely possible. So please, next time you try to act like a smartass in the internet, at least try and do your homework first, okay?

will look at links a little later.

This is where i disagree with what was stated in the video.

IMO Shep went up to the citadel, only she was hallucinating due to indoctrination while there.

For me it was fairly obvious as the final Scene played sluggish like the dream scenes.

Edit -
ok so there is nothing there that debunks indoctrination.

Yes it sucked that none of the choices you made actually had any real effect on the ending.

But I think the ending was actually very good.

It wasn't Hollywood. So it went over a lot of peoples heads.

If you watch the video i posted you will see.

The only error in it is that the whole final scene was a dream. It was not.
It was a hallucination.

I'mma stop you right there with the Hollywood thing.
Fight Club, Usual Suspects, Inside Man, etc, etc
All hollywood films, all have 'twist' endings.
Donnie Darko, Inception
More films which are open to interpretation.
And my personal favorite: Primer.
Primer is an INCREDIBLY low budget time travel piece that is by far the most complicated film I have ever watched.
Here is a diagram of the film's plot line:
http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads...rimer-chart.jpg
Try watching that film and seeing if anything goes over your head.

Anyway, my point is that you literally know nothing about anyone on this forum, or their taste in films/games/literature, so you're not in a position to say they are too pedestrian or simple to get the story just because you can.
In the vast majority of cases where you disagree with someone, you each have an equal likelihood of being wrong. Never assume you've won until proven right. Even on the internet.

Moving on, if the ending was all just a hallucination, then why is Shepard passed out in some rubble on the Citadel? Surely it should all be perfectly intact still? No?
Don't get me wrong, I'm tempted to side with indoctrination, I just don't think the claim is fully substantiated. It WOULD fix the plot, but at the cost of continuity.

hmmm you seem very determined to be angry Sparrowhawk.

So first up in common parlance when we talk of a Hollywood ending.

Main Entry: Hollywood ending
Part of Speech: n
Definition: a typical improbable or simplistically positive movie ending; also, an outcome to an event that would be a more likely film ending than real-life result

I'm sure you knew this already. So I am not sure why you made the whole FightClub point in the first place.

Now I don't know how hot you are at reading.
But I imagine you can do it to a reasonable standard.

Please point out to me where in this thread are the angry rants and raves about the Mass Effect 3 ending?

There are none. So perhaps I was not referring to the people who wrote in the thread be.

Ok but back to the matter at hand.

Here is what happened -
Shep got hit by the beam. This knocked her out. As she was unconsius and so close to Harbinger. The indoctrination suddenly became more powerful.
She starts seeing things. Things that are not there. Things being put into her mind by Harbinger.
Harbinger is trying to stop her from destroying all reapers.
He can no longer stop her physically so he instead attacks her mind.

The husks you see and the final boss (marauder shields) are not there. They are Harbingers attempt to make Shep turn away from the beam.
she goes up to the Citadel.
What she she's there is a mixture of reality and hallucination.
Her mind is also trying to fight the indoctrination.
If harbinger manages to take full control of her mind he will win.

Think about it

[Shadyone]

The day 1 dlc is ridiculous, I found a way to get it for free since IT IS INCLUDED IN THE GAME FILES.
WHAT. THE. F***.
I didn't want to shell out even more money for the dlc after buying the game, I'm poor I don't have that kind of money. Hell, this and Guild Wars 2 are the only games I have money for this year until christmas time (unless I sacrifice other things).

Also I'm really curious to see what happens with killing everyone in ME2.