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MagitekElite
post Jan 25 2011, 10:51 PM
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A GENERAL art thread.

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This post has been edited by MagitekElite: Dec 23 2012, 04:58 PM


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post Sep 29 2011, 11:13 PM
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Blocking out means taking something and deconstructing it into a super rough thing then building it layer upon layer


this is a really shitty ass, poorly blocked out face but
its an example

basically you start out with simple shapes such as circles and triangles and then you slowly build onto them to create consistency
its basically super basic skeletal structure


this isnt mine but its another example of blocking things out

the more you block things out the better and easier it is for you to create a consistent and nice piece

Realism is the best foundation of anything
learning realism opens pretty much every door in the art world for you i am not even kidding. If you have a good grasp of realism you have the power to make legit, amazing, styled, unique pieces that stand out. Learning realism is like starting on a blank sheet of paper; what you draw and what you become is limitless. By drawing in a style (such as anime) you limit yourself to that style and it becomes x100 harder to become better as an artist. What happens is that you start progressing just like everyone else trying to do that style (im using anime here). Your work becomes generic and its hard for you to stand out of the crowd because you are doing the same thing 10000 other people are doing. Even if you get good at the particular style, it becomes harder for you to skew things because you are already in a skewed style. It is extremely easy to tell when someone has learned a foundation based on anime even when attempting more realistic art; ultimately it destroys any type of diversity that you might have. One of the most key things about being an artist is standing out and being unique and original! Style is just as important as technical merit and creativity. Creativity dictates what you draw, technical ability dictates how you draw it, and style dictates how your art is different from the crowd and how well you stand out (which doesnt sound huge but it is super huge especially if you become good!!!!!!!!)

Not only that, as you progress as a better artist, you start to learn what things sort of annoy people like me and other artists trying to learn basic art. Things such as side eyes (which make no sense people are not flounders!!!!) and eyes that pop out of hair are just not very appealing things to look at. You also understand how to skew things to make them look correct. Skewing is basically compromising. You compromise certain features to compliment feature changes in order to make them look like the artist intentionally drew it this way instead of it looking like a mistake (which happens more often when you dont study basic realism and anatomy and proportion)

All Im saying is just do some basic realism even if it doesnt sound fun it increases your technical ability by 100% and with a super solid foundation you will start to explore different realms of art and eventually come up with a unique style that you make up all by yourself! When people think of realism based things they go bleh. You dont have to draw realism 24/7 because that would be silly; im just saying use that as your foundation instead of things such as anime! Just learn some basic realistic proportion and anatomy. It will make your life 1000% easier in the short term and long term. Your style may eventually turn up to be anime based (which is fine because you will most likely draw it correctly and it will stand out from the million other anime people draw). The whole point is style and standing out and by basing your art and proportions on what a million other people are doing, you are setting yourself up for disappointment and a lot of headaches. Trust me~

As for tablet, you wont ever get that paper-pencil feel. That just doesnt exist. Starting out with a tablet is one of the most tedious things ever because you have to reteach yourself how to draw in a different way. You cant see what your pencil is drawing and there is that disconnect and it always exists. That isn't always a bad thing though. Using a tablet has taught me so much about gesture and line confidence and minimizing strokes. It also is a great way to practice painting and understanding basics. Is a tablet hard to use when starting off? Hell yes it is. Will it make you a better artist in the long run? Absolutely. That is why I recommend the bamboo. It has just enough features and stuff like that to get you started with the basics. With added features and stuff like that there is a significantly larger learning curve. The bamboo has pressure sensitivity and all of the basic and mid-level features of a tablet for a good deal.
i also recommend getting the pen and touch not the craft or anything like that because the smaller the canvas the easier the learning curve is and the more it teaches you about line strokes and gesture~
Start out with the basic Bamboo Pen and Touch it will teach you a lot
and never stop drawing on paper
do your realism on paper and then explore with the tablet
but study and be studious
read some realistic tutorials, learn how to block and form correct faces and bodies, practice certain features, etc

also I made drawing with a tablet sound terrible but I absolutely love it because it gives me some super creative freedom but when I began i hated it so much. Now I like to draw on my tablet whenever I can but that took me about 6-8 months to develop this certain relationship with it. Just stick with it and it will become second nature

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- MagitekElite   A General Art Thread!   Jan 25 2011, 10:51 PM
- - lyla2284   Hmm... a bit more detail wouldn't go amiss. Yo...   Jan 27 2011, 11:51 AM
- - MagitekElite   Yea, I was gonna add them, but I was hoping someon...   Jan 27 2011, 12:59 PM
- - lyla2284   The thing is, Karina, you can draw just about anyt...   Jan 28 2011, 08:36 AM
- - MagitekElite   If the eyes or nose, for example, are wrong or une...   Jan 28 2011, 06:14 PM
- - leongon   On paper you can't do ctrl-z. Tablet is 10 tim...   Jan 28 2011, 06:42 PM
- - MagitekElite   Preparing to add detail. Did a lineart...first tim...   Jan 28 2011, 09:54 PM
- - X-M-O   I haven't seen very many examples of line-art ...   Jan 29 2011, 12:50 AM
- - MagitekElite   What do you mean its inverted? Oh, I drew cleaner ...   Jan 29 2011, 10:26 AM
- - leongon   I can't say horses and dragon's shapes are...   Jan 29 2011, 10:48 AM
- - MagitekElite   In modeling, they are basically the same; neck, ba...   Jan 29 2011, 12:46 PM
|- - X-M-O   QUOTE (MagitekElite @ Jan 29 2011, 02:46 ...   Jan 29 2011, 02:08 PM
- - Homunculus   Pick up that pencil and keep on drawing!!...   Jan 29 2011, 03:04 PM
- - MagitekElite   @X-M-0: Yea, usually drawing in all black seems a ...   Jan 29 2011, 03:28 PM
- - Homunculus   Honestly? I prefer pen and paper over computer too...   Jan 29 2011, 03:50 PM
- - MagitekElite   My hand always rubs over it, it gets annoying...   Jan 29 2011, 04:42 PM
- - X-M-O   Oh, just wanted to mention that the Horned Lizards...   Jan 30 2011, 04:00 AM
- - MagitekElite   With what I have now, I decided on just trying out...   Feb 9 2011, 05:57 PM
- - leongon   A suggestion: This forum skin is all white, you k...   Feb 9 2011, 06:05 PM
- - MagitekElite   I figured it was a bit too light. I just edited my...   Feb 9 2011, 06:08 PM
- - MagitekElite   Update! :3 Older images updated.   Apr 2 2011, 08:28 PM
|- - tyladras   Hey, the arts looking good Personally I would g...   Apr 3 2011, 07:10 AM
- - MagitekElite   Thank you, Tyladas! That's what I thought ...   Apr 3 2011, 05:08 PM
- - Caebrillia   I was actually thinking the opposite ><, Wel...   Apr 3 2011, 05:16 PM
- - MagitekElite   What do you mean "is the tail flat?" :3 ...   Apr 3 2011, 05:24 PM
- - Caebrillia   I thiiiink I know what you mean. Is it like, the d...   Apr 3 2011, 05:33 PM
- - MagitekElite   This is the closest I could find images that ...   Apr 3 2011, 06:05 PM
- - Caebrillia   Ah! If you want it to look like the komodo dra...   Apr 3 2011, 06:15 PM
- - MagitekElite   Hmm...maybe I should do both then? To compare? ...   Apr 3 2011, 07:09 PM
- - Caebrillia   I personally like the third one the most 8D I thin...   Apr 3 2011, 07:32 PM
- - MagitekElite   What do you guys think? Scales and talons of the d...   Apr 6 2011, 02:39 PM
- - MagitekElite   Updated the first post with some things! I...   Jul 2 2011, 07:41 PM
- - MagitekElite   I will love to see advice and so on! :3   Aug 21 2011, 03:11 PM
- - X-M-O   That's really neat! It's nice to see s...   Aug 21 2011, 06:10 PM
- - MagitekElite   X-M-O, those are amazing tutorials! Thank you ...   Aug 21 2011, 08:28 PM
- - X-M-O   You're welcome. Glad I could help you hone you...   Aug 22 2011, 12:35 AM
- - MagitekElite   Ah! I went to google, images and pasted the UR...   Aug 22 2011, 05:03 PM
- - MagitekElite   So, working on a new found love of mine! I stu...   Aug 28 2011, 06:45 PM
- - X-M-O   It looks pretty cool. =] Just don't forget the...   Aug 28 2011, 11:25 PM
- - Knot   Wow, that's a really impressive looking map...   Aug 29 2011, 01:26 AM
- - MagitekElite   @X-M-O: Thanks! There are tutorials and site...   Aug 29 2011, 10:41 AM
- - X-M-O   It looks beautiful! The oceans look just right...   Aug 29 2011, 11:51 AM
- - MagitekElite   Thanks, X-M-O! :3   Aug 29 2011, 02:32 PM
- - Knot   Wow, that's really quite amazing, thanks! ...   Aug 29 2011, 03:16 PM
- - MagitekElite   I'm practicing making rivers now, but no matte...   Aug 30 2011, 06:34 PM
- - X-M-O   I don't know, I think it's just right. Con...   Aug 30 2011, 08:04 PM
- - MagitekElite   I looked at Googlemaps and we couldn't see the...   Aug 30 2011, 09:08 PM
- - X-M-O   That's a great example to work towards. =D Yo...   Aug 30 2011, 09:58 PM
- - MagitekElite   Ah, I see what you mean! I can't believe I...   Aug 30 2011, 10:05 PM
- - X-M-O   Looks good! I don't think you need any mor...   Aug 30 2011, 10:07 PM
- - MagitekElite   Thanks, X-M-O! I'll have an update up so...   Aug 31 2011, 11:41 AM
- - X-M-O   Oh wow, lots of updates! D= The black/white i...   Aug 31 2011, 10:57 PM
- - MagitekElite   Yea, sorry about that and thankies! The tuto...   Sep 1 2011, 01:02 PM
- - X-M-O   Here's an idea to help with the fuzziness prob...   Sep 1 2011, 11:05 PM
- - MagitekElite   Okay, I was messing with it last night and the fuz...   Sep 2 2011, 12:03 PM
- - X-M-O   Ok, great. ^^ Yeah, patterns can be difficult to ...   Sep 2 2011, 06:59 PM
- - MagitekElite   Sure! That would be awesome, X-M-O! Anythi...   Sep 2 2011, 09:16 PM
- - X-M-O   Here are a few that you may want to tinker with an...   Sep 3 2011, 07:21 PM
- - MagitekElite   Awesome! Awesome! I think the second and l...   Sep 3 2011, 11:27 PM
- - X-M-O   Oh yes! The more variants we've got, the m...   Sep 4 2011, 12:04 AM
- - Knot   Yeh, I'd love to see some of your full scale p...   Sep 4 2011, 12:12 AM
- - MagitekElite   I'm both practicing my skill and building a ma...   Sep 5 2011, 05:01 PM
- - Knot   lol, I actually don't mind them as flat forest...   Sep 5 2011, 05:45 PM
- - MagitekElite   By flat I meant it looked more like grass than tre...   Sep 5 2011, 06:45 PM
- - X-M-O   I definitely agree that the second one looks great...   Sep 5 2011, 10:35 PM
- - MagitekElite   First time using Paint SAI Tool, so I have no idea...   Sep 29 2011, 07:03 PM
- - bacon   You have to block your facial structure out a lot ...   Sep 29 2011, 08:09 PM
- - MagitekElite   Wow, thanks for the reply Bacon! May I ask s...   Sep 29 2011, 09:55 PM
- - MagitekElite   That "rant" was a great help Bacon! ...   Sep 30 2011, 12:42 PM
- - MagitekElite   Okay, while I gather some realism tutorials and fi...   Sep 30 2011, 10:47 PM
- - MagitekElite   Hey guys! Working on a new logo for my game. W...   Jul 24 2012, 07:42 PM
- - X-M-O   Wow, that's a huge improvement (logo and backg...   Jul 24 2012, 08:02 PM
- - MagitekElite   Thank you, X-M-O! It took me all day to make ...   Jul 24 2012, 08:32 PM


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