Ultimatum *Beta, Finally a Beta Options

[Rob_Riv]

Want brutal honesty some serious down to earth honest solid? you suck. plain and simple, you suck because your new, we all sucked when we were knew

If you don't have anything else to do except for backseat moderate and spam and flame, why don't you just not post in this thread?

I've given legitimate feedback, that is twenty points specifically related to the demo, and you keep posting, drowning my legitimate feedback with your pointless posts.

[Show/Hide] Demo Feedback

• Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
• ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
• Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
• Bad grammar.
• I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
• You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
• What is this I don't even...
• Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
• Lots of mapping errors.
• What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
• Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
• Spelling mistakes
• No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
• So many mapping errors.
• Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
• This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
• ...lots of capitals
• Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
• I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
• Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?

Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.

ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

Yes.

and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

My point wasn't about the fact that he was in your party, did you even read what anything says?

The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

It doesn't say that in your intro.

I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warrors, again you did not read the intro)

It doesn't say that in the intro. Again, you did not read the intro.

[Show/Hide] Your 346 word introduction.

Aithen, a world filled with life and prosperity.
A world of great peace
The nations of this
world never fought with one another.

Until one day a dark force came upon a king
of one of these
nations, this man was only
known to the world as SolidStrife.

SolidStrife saw the world as a gift from
the Gods.
He then proceded
on to conquer this world with his vast army

Many villages were burned down, Innocent people were
slaughtered.

The people began to lose hope. All seemed to be lost.
Until one day
a young man by the name of Leon,rose up
against the tyrant.

Leon fought the evil king's army, but he could not do it
on his own.

The people saw this bravery and joined him in his
campaign of freedom
The warriors who fought alongside Leon
were seen as heroes

The people saw them as warriors of fate and
declared them the warriors of Destiny.

The Gods on the other hand saw them as
the warriors of Seifen, the creator of this
world.

Many battles were fought, and many a great warrior
perished.
Nevertheless Leon pressed on his fight.
Then Seifen came before Leon.

The Seifen had been weakend because the people
lost their faith
and that was what kept him alive

Seifen gave Leon a propostion, if the war did
not end within 7 days he would give his final strength
to Leon in
the form of a destructive sword.

Nevertheless the war continued, and on the
7th day Leon recieved
the sword, the sword of Ultimatum.

He confronted SolidStrife in what was to be the final stand
of Leon's
troops and in one faithful swing of the sword the
entire nation of Solidstrife was gone.

The war was over, the people declared Leon their King.
But Leon saw the corruption of power he saw within
SolidStrife
And decided that he was to live a peaceful life.

He gave the Ultimatum to the Gods and told them to
never unleash
such a weapon again.

also if you actually researched the word Ultimatum you would know why i named it that way,
again you did not pay any attention to my intro

Why should I research it? I know what it means. Maybe you should research it? There was a sword called Ultimatum, Seifen said "if the war doesn't finish in seven days, I'll give you the sword to help you win", seven days later he gets the sword and swings it and the entire nation of 'Solidstrife' was gone. There's no ultimatum, there's not even any mention of a conversation between Leon and 'SolidStrife'.

You didn't seem to pay attention to my post.

• You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.

Which specific points, out of the twenty that I made, are in question here?

[literarygoth]

How about some frikken positive feeback/C&C from the community huh?
This isn't the first thread that I've come across where a complete noob to RPG Maker has posted their new project which they put time and effort into and they've been blasted by virtually everyone.
Way to encourage the new users people, congrats!

Yes I was blunt in my original post, HOWEVER I gave the kid some useful suggestions.
To us, it may not seem like he put much effort into it - which is understandable given some of the games created by other more experienced users. Remember, we all were noobs once too!
Once upon a time, we didn't know how to map properly either.

Yes, his game needs help - so offer some suggestions instead of flaming him.
Wouldn't you get defensive if you posted something you were proud of and then everyone ripped it to shreds laughing at your hard work and calling you a complete moron? Put the shoe on the other foot for Christ's sake.
How can these users improve at all if all we're doing is stripping them?

This post has been edited by literarygoth: Aug 29 2010, 09:00 AM

[Harryb412]

What LiteraryGoth said.
Seriously guys, there is contructive critism and then there is this.
We were all new once and can't expect everyone to be on your level of RM'ing.

[markchapman10]

Ok so when Strifer fisrt got to the forums i had told him i would do some mapping for him... we have kept in contact and i downloaded the demo, and this is what ive come up with..... i know its an improvement and strifer dont get mad at me, im just doing what you asked me to do..... the blue print cbasic layout of the map is still the same...

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[Lurvid]

Mark, question: If that house is just 1 tile high, how does it make sense that there is a 2 tile high dresser? This is kinda why it's suggested that buildings in RMXP are at least 2 tiles high. Though I like your mapping.

[markchapman10]

Mark, question: If that house is just 1 tile high, how does it make sense that there is a 2 tile high dresser? This is kinda why it's suggested that buildings in RMXP are at least 2 tiles high. Though I like your mapping.

thank you, i missed that, i didnt want to change his map that much so most of the furnature that was in there, i put back in there,, and thank you for the compliment....

[Paper PokéMaste...]

Yes, I think that one-tile-high buildings is just for outside.

When you're inside, buildings should be at least two tiles high, if that makes sense.

It might be a little easier to get a better opinion on the map if you posted a screenshot of the whole thing?
Right now, we can only see a very small amount.

[markchapman10]

Yes, I think that one-tile-high buildings is just for outside.

When you're inside, buildings should be at least two tiles high, if that makes sense.

It might be a little easier to get a better opinion on the map if you posted a screenshot of the whole thing?
Right now, we can only see a very small amount.

If you really want me to i will, but imma going to put the demo back up with redone maps, i done talked to Strifer. He would like to see it to... We have a deal worked out....... Oh yea, and Strifer, i dont want no spaical credit, i would like to be in your game though... just pm me cause i have a character and face set already.... I will give credit to someone though i seen it somewhere on one of the threads on here where someone sisnt want credit but to be in the game and he posted a sprite in his sig, lol.... That was an awsome idea.....

[Paper PokéMaste...]

... Putting the game's creators in a game as actual, non-hidden characters is not something I like, but whatever.

And you overuse ... Use it less, please?

Also, I again say, shave off any unused/unneeded files. 194 MB is too much. You can make a copy of the games folder and delete all unnecessary files to keep what you already have but isn't in the demo.

I will download/play when you've made the filesize smaller. ~♪

[Rob_Riv]

Oh yea, and Strifer, i dont want no spaical credit, i would like to be in your game though... just pm me cause i have a character and face set already....

Whatt? Why can't you just be credited? I wonder if you mean that you want to be a character in that awful part of the introduction that breaks the fourth wall.

Still no reply to this post.

[Show/Hide] Demo Feedback

• Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
• ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
• Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
• Bad grammar.
• I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
• You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
• What is this I don't even...
• Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
• Lots of mapping errors.
• What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
• Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
• Spelling mistakes
• No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
• So many mapping errors.
• Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
• This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
• ...lots of capitals
• Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
• I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
• Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?

Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.

ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

Yes.

and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

My point wasn't about the fact that he was in your party, did you even read what anything says?

The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

It doesn't say that in your intro.

I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warrors, again you did not read the intro)

It doesn't say that in the intro. Again, you did not read the intro.

[Show/Hide] Your 346 word introduction.

Aithen, a world filled with life and prosperity.
A world of great peace
The nations of this
world never fought with one another.

Until one day a dark force came upon a king
of one of these
nations, this man was only
known to the world as SolidStrife.

SolidStrife saw the world as a gift from
the Gods.
He then proceded
on to conquer this world with his vast army

Many villages were burned down, Innocent people were
slaughtered.

The people began to lose hope. All seemed to be lost.
Until one day
a young man by the name of Leon,rose up
against the tyrant.

Leon fought the evil king's army, but he could not do it
on his own.

The people saw this bravery and joined him in his
campaign of freedom
The warriors who fought alongside Leon
were seen as heroes

The people saw them as warriors of fate and
declared them the warriors of Destiny.

The Gods on the other hand saw them as
the warriors of Seifen, the creator of this
world.

Many battles were fought, and many a great warrior
perished.
Nevertheless Leon pressed on his fight.
Then Seifen came before Leon.

The Seifen had been weakend because the people
lost their faith
and that was what kept him alive

Seifen gave Leon a propostion, if the war did
not end within 7 days he would give his final strength
to Leon in
the form of a destructive sword.

Nevertheless the war continued, and on the
7th day Leon recieved
the sword, the sword of Ultimatum.

He confronted SolidStrife in what was to be the final stand
of Leon's
troops and in one faithful swing of the sword the
entire nation of Solidstrife was gone.

The war was over, the people declared Leon their King.
But Leon saw the corruption of power he saw within
SolidStrife
And decided that he was to live a peaceful life.

He gave the Ultimatum to the Gods and told them to
never unleash
such a weapon again.

also if you actually researched the word Ultimatum you would know why i named it that way,
again you did not pay any attention to my intro

Why should I research it? I know what it means. Maybe you should research it? There was a sword called Ultimatum, Seifen said "if the war doesn't finish in seven days, I'll give you the sword to help you win", seven days later he gets the sword and swings it and the entire nation of 'Solidstrife' was gone. There's no ultimatum, there's not even any mention of a conversation between Leon and 'SolidStrife'.

You didn't seem to pay attention to my post.

• You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.

Which specific points, out of the twenty that I made, are in question here?

[markchapman10]

Oh yea, and Strifer, i dont want no spaical credit, i would like to be in your game though... just pm me cause i have a character and face set already....

Whatt? Why can't you just be credited? I wonder if you mean that you want to be a character in that awful part of the introduction that breaks the fourth wall.

Still no reply to this post.

[Show/Hide] Demo Feedback

• Firstly, how about renaming your topic? If everyone named their topics like you, every thread would be called "MY NEW RPG DEMO".
• ULTIMATUM doesn't really seem like a good name for a game.
• Your opening theme is Final Fantasy, really?
• Bad grammar.
• I'm repeating the point already mentioned that the window goes from clear in the middle to blue at the bottom. You clearly haven't even attempted to test and fix your game yourself.
• You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.
• What is this I don't even...
• Five chests just sitting around in your house. It does not look good.
• Lots of mapping errors.
• What? leaving your house leads to a world map... where a demon says "you have to beat me for my boat" or something, and then you fight two bats.
• Nearly got killed by the bats as I was blinded multiple times.
• Spelling mistakes
• No idea what I should do. I've been told not to go somewhere... that's all.
• So many mapping errors.
• Why do you get supplies from other cities if you don't trade?
• This makes no sense. I have no idea what's going on.
• ...lots of capitals
• Now he's trying to fight his father, the leader of the destiny warriors?
• I died... and now it's a game over. What the hell?
• Okay, did it all again, and defeated him. He's joined my party, he's level 99. How exactly did I defeat someone that experienced and strong?

Final Thoughts: I'm not exactly sure what the point in the demo was.

ok for starters did u even read what anything says.?

Yes.

and by the way You really aren't going to have the dad in the party for very long so yeah

My point wasn't about the fact that he was in your party, did you even read what anything says?

The first house is basically a secluded area if you paid any attention to my intro you would have known why/

It doesn't say that in your intro.

I also point out that they receive supplies because they have the Seifen,(destiny warrors, again you did not read the intro)

It doesn't say that in the intro. Again, you did not read the intro.

[Show/Hide] Your 346 word introduction.

Aithen, a world filled with life and prosperity.
A world of great peace
The nations of this
world never fought with one another.

Until one day a dark force came upon a king
of one of these
nations, this man was only
known to the world as SolidStrife.

SolidStrife saw the world as a gift from
the Gods.
He then proceded
on to conquer this world with his vast army

Many villages were burned down, Innocent people were
slaughtered.

The people began to lose hope. All seemed to be lost.
Until one day
a young man by the name of Leon,rose up
against the tyrant.

Leon fought the evil king's army, but he could not do it
on his own.

The people saw this bravery and joined him in his
campaign of freedom
The warriors who fought alongside Leon
were seen as heroes

The people saw them as warriors of fate and
declared them the warriors of Destiny.

The Gods on the other hand saw them as
the warriors of Seifen, the creator of this
world.

Many battles were fought, and many a great warrior
perished.
Nevertheless Leon pressed on his fight.
Then Seifen came before Leon.

The Seifen had been weakend because the people
lost their faith
and that was what kept him alive

Seifen gave Leon a propostion, if the war did
not end within 7 days he would give his final strength
to Leon in
the form of a destructive sword.

Nevertheless the war continued, and on the
7th day Leon recieved
the sword, the sword of Ultimatum.

He confronted SolidStrife in what was to be the final stand
of Leon's
troops and in one faithful swing of the sword the
entire nation of Solidstrife was gone.

The war was over, the people declared Leon their King.
But Leon saw the corruption of power he saw within
SolidStrife
And decided that he was to live a peaceful life.

He gave the Ultimatum to the Gods and told them to
never unleash
such a weapon again.

also if you actually researched the word Ultimatum you would know why i named it that way,
again you did not pay any attention to my intro

Why should I research it? I know what it means. Maybe you should research it? There was a sword called Ultimatum, Seifen said "if the war doesn't finish in seven days, I'll give you the sword to help you win", seven days later he gets the sword and swings it and the entire nation of 'Solidstrife' was gone. There's no ultimatum, there's not even any mention of a conversation between Leon and 'SolidStrife'.

You didn't seem to pay attention to my post.

• You're giving me all this exposition at the start of the game, but I'm not invested in the story or characters yet, so I'm not going to absorb this information. No-one will.

Which specific points, out of the twenty that I made, are in question here?

Hell, any type of anything would be nice.... an npc dont have to be anything spaical.... Why the negativity? im not asking much, im ust helping him... noobs do that because like this post newbs dont flame other newbs.....

[Rob_Riv]

Hell, any type of anything would be nice.... an npc dont have to be anything spaical.... Why the negativity? im not asking much, im ust helping him... noobs do that because like this post newbs dont flame other newbs.....

An NPC is one thing, my negativity is due to the fact that asking to be in his game isn't really helping him. I mean, that part of the introduction where suddenly the game's creator appears is just not good at all.

noobs do that because like this post newbs dont flame other newbs.....

What's this supposed to mean?

[markchapman10]

Hell, any type of anything would be nice.... an npc dont have to be anything spaical.... Why the negativity? im not asking much, im ust helping him... noobs do that because like this post newbs dont flame other newbs.....

An NPC is one thing, my negativity is due to the fact that asking to be in his game isn't really helping him. I mean, that part of the introduction where suddenly the game's creator appears is just not good at all.

noobs do that because like this post newbs dont flame other newbs.....

What's this supposed to mean?

Im helping him map! lol.... sorry you missed that somewhere in here, im sure i posted it..... im putting his demo back up but with better maps.... i just have to upload it to mega uploads or somehting......

[Rob_Riv]

I know you're mapping for him, I just wasn't sure what you meant by "newbs dont flame other newbs", no-one is flaming here.

Anyway, hopefully he'll actually respond to my post soon.

[Resource Dragon]

This topic gets more and more hilarious every time somebody posts...
I find it ironic that this topic is so popular when the rpg's made by the more skilled (no offence)
have like 1/5 of the posts..

[markchapman10]

I know you're mapping for him, I just wasn't sure what you meant by "newbs dont flame other newbs", no-one is flaming here.

Anyway, hopefully he'll actually respond to my post soon.

Yea, he hasnt responded to me at all either, not for a couple days.... His town, did you see anything wrong with it? Other than the trees was super aligned, but i dont see anything wrong with it seeing how a town is man made... and earlier here it was like hell, i read all the posts..... im hopeing to have the demo back up with all redone maps in an hour ot two....


Is 96.9 MB bad? thats what im uploading now.....

~Posts merged due to double post. Please wait 48 hours between double posting.
-Harryb412

I know you're mapping for him, I just wasn't sure what you meant by "newbs dont flame other newbs", no-one is flaming here.

Anyway, hopefully he'll actually respond to my post soon.

Yea, he hasnt responded to me at all either, not for a couple days.... His town, did you see anything wrong with it? Other than the trees was super aligned, but i dont see anything wrong with it seeing how a town is man made... and earlier here it was like hell, i read all the posts..... im hopeing to have the demo back up with all redone maps in an hour ot two....


Is 96.9 MB bad? thats what im uploading now.....

Im sorry to double post but this is a n important announcment (sorry if i spelled that wrong.) i have the new demo right here. Its 96.9MB i hope its smaller than usual.... im sorry strife if i changed to much but i did what i could to save your maps, i want you to take the maps and learn from them, this is my pressent for you take it as a welcoming gift, and the only credit that is needed is to make me as an npc, pm me to get my sprite and face set if needed.

http://rapidshare.com/files/416553624/Ultimatum.exe

This post has been edited by Harryb412: Sep 2 2010, 08:16 AM

[Zenok Blueraven]

lol if only he would check his topic....

edit: im always checking my topics
edit2:[Removed due to advertising own thread. -Harryb412]

[markchapman10]

lol if only he would check his topic....

edit: im always checking my topics
edit2: just to let every 1 know.... i updated deviant adventure to 2.0 check out my thread if ur interested

Is that bot off topic, and check whos posts Strifer? Yea, i wander why he wont. Well, his games on here but if someone dont download his demo, then it will be lost. its the rapidshare thing.

Also, is that not off topic?

This post has been edited by markchapman10: Sep 1 2010, 08:41 PM

[Resource Dragon]

Godamnit fine. i'll download it. How bout you guys make me the Game Back-upper?

EDIT: its megaupload, not rapidshare =.=

[FullSpectrum]

I could lend a hand with some stuff. Sure, its awkward as hell to play through, but I think this shows some promise. If you and him are okay with it, I'd like to do a bit of editing and then show you to see what you think.