I hope this is the right forum to ask this, however recently in the United Kingdom, cases of Swine Flu have been popping up again. It might only be a few people, but I have a question about it.
I haven't managed to get a straight answer when its come to asking anyone this but I'm gonna have a shot Being Diabetic (type 1) I had to have the vaccine last year as well as the flu vaccine which I need to have every year. Due to their being new cases of Swine Flu, does this mean I need to have that vaccine again? O_O
It might seem like a stupid question, but I am quite stumped about it XD Thanks in advance
(It's time for another governmental cash grab -- just before the end of the holidays!!!)
If your worried about possibily getting it again, you could always ask to have another shot just to be on the safe side. I think you will probably be fine either way, but double check to see if you really need to get another shot.
I thought Swine Flu was completely gone, but I guess I'm wrong.
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Usually flu shots these days include vaccines against both types in one dose, but not always. Ask your doctor before he gives you the shot to make sure it contains both kinds.
The link above is an article about older people with swine flu.
I didn't post it to call anyone old or steer off topic. Instead I grant the possibility that: The H1N1 epidemic in the past may have helped people of that time develop an immunity, immunities as we know, are generally genetic. So you may or may not have to worry about H1N1 at all. Here we don't call it swine flu simply because it has been showing up in cows and chickens, we just call it H1N1.
Ahh swine flu. I couldve had an injection for this but I refused. Theres a post somewhere else where I posted why I wouldnt have any innjections unless 100% neccessary but thats another story.
There is one thing I would like to make clear though, I never believed in Swine flu, Believed it to be a fake, and towards the end of the 'Pandemic' last year it was proven to be fake. Makes you think 'why would the government pull shit like this?'. Maybe it because:
QUOTE (Brent Murray @ Dec 22 2010, 12:54 AM)
(It's time for another governmental cash grab -- just before the end of the holidays!!!)
Or maybe they wanted people to have the injection(s)... Hmmm....
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The H1N1 epidemic in the past may have helped people of that time develop an immunity, immunities as we know, are generally genetic.
What? The article says that their immunity would come from previous experience with the influenza, nothing to do with genetics.
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There is one thing I would like to make clear though, I never believed in Swine flu, Believed it to be a fake, and towards the end of the 'Pandemic' last year it was proven to be fake.
What are you talking about? "Swine Flu was proven to be fake" - what does that even mean?
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There is one thing I would like to make clear though, I never believed in Swine flu, Believed it to be a fake, and towards the end of the 'Pandemic' last year it was proven to be fake.
What are you talking about? "Swine Flu was proven to be fake" - what does that even mean?
I read it in a trustworthy newspaper. A professional discovered it was just a strain of flu (Of course this would be kept from reaching news stations and front page). Not related to the flu pigs can get. Ilness can have much worse effects if a persons state of mind believes that what they have may kill them. So when people caught what they thought was swine flu they most likely just had a flu and becuase the person thought it had to be swine flu they convinced themselves that they needed the injection or they were going to die. My sister thought she had swine flu during the epidemic and i was perfectly healthy?
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I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say Rob.
What I was getting to is that some people have been exposed to the H1N1 strand before, because thats what the Avian Flu was, and that was probably one of the worst pandemics we've experienced (at least, I think thats what my Bio teacher told us). Anyway, if a person were to be immune to it, its probably because they or a family member have been exposed to the H1N1 strand by either the Avian flu or some oher means.
I read it in a trustworthy newspaper. A professional discovered it was just a strain of flu (Of course this would be kept from reaching news stations and front page). Not related to the flu pigs can get.
Right, that doesn't sound true. According to Science Daily, pigs could catch that strain. As a general rule, if you're going to make huge claims, provide supporting evidence.
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I read it in a trustworthy newspaper. A professional discovered it was just a strain of flu (Of course this would be kept from reaching news stations and front page). Not related to the flu pigs can get. Ilness can have much worse effects if a persons state of mind believes that what they have may kill them. So when people caught what they thought was swine flu they most likely just had a flu and becuase the person thought it had to be swine flu they convinced themselves that they needed the injection or they were going to die. My sister thought she had swine flu during the epidemic and i was perfectly healthy?
Obviously it was 'just a strain of flu'. That's part of the definition of being a 'flu'. But yes, pigs could catch that.
And you're referring to a reverse-placebo effect... the evidence for that is not that strong, and even then it rarely occurs that severely.
Of course, Swine Flu wasn't a particularly deadly strain anyway, but it was highly contagious - more so than seasonal flu.
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What I was getting to is that some people have been exposed to the H1N1 strand before, because thats what the Avian Flu was, and that was probably one of the worst pandemics we've experienced (at least, I think thats what my Bio teacher told us). Anyway, if a person were to be immune to it, its probably because they or a family member have been exposed to the H1N1 strand by either the Avian flu or some oher means.
Avian flu is H5N1, not H1N1.
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Sorry I seem to have worded what I meant in such a way it didnt really get across what I meant. What I meant was that swine flu was just an ordinary flu that pigs CAN get (sorry, got my facts jumbled up ). But its existed for a long time just like any other flu. Its just that its been made into an epidemic for God knows what reason (I believe the government are turning the whole flu into some massive hyperbole to get us to take the flu - IMO that is (Im a sucker for conspiracy theories )). Its only becuase its being depicted in the media as a 'killer'. Its just another strain of the flu which has existed for years. Millions more die from the common cold than swine flu. Seriously I really dont recommend taking a flu shot unless your certain you are on the brink of death and are 100% sure its the only thing that will save you. We really just need to sit back and endure swine flu - get it into our system and develop antibodies, kill it off and move on with our lives. Also dont forget theres a likely chance that if you fall ill with flu over the holidays it could possibly be one of the billions of other strains of flu which exist. Dont immediately jump to the conclusion that the pigs are to blame. H1N1 is nothing more than a mutation of an existing HUMAN flu which pigs can now catch.
Sorry for the mix up with my facts . What I wrote above is basically what I read in the newspaper without mention of the professional. Im sorry I couldnt find this article online anyhwhere... .
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H1N1 is nothing more than a mutation of an existing HUMAN flu which pigs can now catch.
So you're saying that H1N1 isn't swine flu?
From New Scientist "Anne Schuchat, head of science and public health at the CDC, said that the US virus is an unusually mongrelised mix of genetic sequences from North American pigs, Eurasian pigs, birds and humans. The H protein on its surface, having hitherto circulated only in pigs, is one most human immune systems have never seen, the crucial requirement for a pandemic flu."
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H1N1 is nothing more than a mutation of an existing HUMAN flu which pigs can now catch.
So you're saying that H1N1 isn't swine flu?
From New Scientist "Anne Schuchat, head of science and public health at the CDC, said that the US virus is an unusually mongrelised mix of genetic sequences from North American pigs, Eurasian pigs, birds and humans. The H protein on its surface, having hitherto circulated only in pigs, is one most human immune systems have never seen, the crucial requirement for a pandemic flu."
No H1N1 is what is apparently swine flu I was just saying that it mutated from a flu before (I dont know which though)
And the website you linked to obtained information from a government (which I mentioned in my first post (but forgot in my last, sorry) its my belief that the government are trying to mmake us think we're in some sort of pandemic when actually its just a strain of flu and therefore its my belief the information given by the government is 'twisted'. Sorry I forgot to mention that most of what im saying has been kinda like a conspiracy theory but I honestly remember reading about somewhere the ins and outs of how swine flu is just a common flu. Ah well just another classic case of believing everything I read - sorry . I still think that the government(s) are making a much bigger deal about swine flu than neccessary though.
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Man it has been ages since I last came on this site xD. But with the recent (localized) release of RPG maker VX Ace (and thanks to a bit of money I recently came into possession of ^_^) how could I stay away?? :). But its been a good 2 years since I updated my profile (seeing as my about me page said I was 15, when im now 17 years of age). Well anyway glad to be back :). I probably wont be a commonly seen face (or... profile) but I hope to prolong my stay :). And yes my signature is the same as my about me page, mainly due to the fact that im lazy ;D.
And the website you linked to obtained information from a government (which I mentioned in my first post (but forgot in my last, sorry) its my belief that the government are trying to mmake us think we're in some sort of pandemic when actually its just a strain of flu and therefore its my belief the information given by the government is 'twisted'. Sorry I forgot to mention that most of what im saying has been kinda like a conspiracy theory but I honestly remember reading about somewhere the ins and outs of how swine flu is just a common flu. Ah well just another classic case of believing everything I read - sorry . I still think that the government(s) are making a much bigger deal about swine flu than neccessary though.
You've got no evidence to support your conspiracy theories though.
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Sorry for the late reply but recently I had the jab and it was only the Flu jab. They had mixed a part of the Swine Flu inoculation within the Flu Jab so I didn't have to take the Swine Flu jab again as well! Hurrah! Only half the pain and horrifying needles this time round ¬_¬
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