TryAdIne eFfeCt, Truth cloaked as a lie... Options

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Hey man, finally got this all written up and set. Here’s some in-depth feedback and I hope it helps you out. I wasn’t able to complete the demo, I got all the way to near the end of Day 3 but I couldn’t defeat the first noctophage when trying to leave that building with my torch and everything. Literally it was impossible because I had too much pain But as for the feedback, just to give you an early sneak-peak…the demo was quite awesome

Well, thanks again for a precise review

Let's answer some of your questions:

1. I'm working on game mechanics but haven't any idea ATM. I was thinking to add a Resident-Evil-like slot item system, but I feel it could be superflous. Anyway, I will add a select-day-new-game-option. This is for sure.

2. Try ending Day 3, because if I spoiler something, I'll really ruin you the surprise. REALLY!

As regards that Noctiphage:

3. Haven't you got a backup First Aid Kit? Have you checked the dead bodies?
4. Remember: Noctiphages fear the light... if you act wisely, you should fight only one Noctiphage in the whole Day 3.
5. Anyway, that Noctiphage is the last true obstacle, I swear! What about having a backup save data at the beginning of every day?
I know my system is difficult, but this is something like a life insurance
6. The HSIG isn't a good weapon to fight with if you have a fair amount of pain. Check in the room when Leader tell you the whole story and you'll find a knife. The knife has lower attack but better precision and damage increasing according to the target's pain.

As regards plot:

7. That girl in Floor -1 isn't Eni. Sorry for the misunderstanding. She has the same hair cut, but she's gray-haired, not azure-haired
8. Veckert is the main point in my game. Everything revolves around Veckert, since Veckert is well known by every living soul in St. patrick but is barely a stranger for the player. You must figure it out yourself, a Demo after another. Anyway, I'll provide new details in Day 4.
9. Veckert was born in District 7 but moved to District 5, where lives at the moment.

Thanks again,

Jens

This post has been edited by Jens of Zanicuud: Jul 5 2012, 04:29 AM

[The Law G14]

Alright thanks for answering the questions, but I tried again to fight the Noctophage and man I have 79% pain and even though I have full health it doesn't matter even with the knife, it's literally impossible for me to win. I have no first aid kits or anything, is there possibly anything I can do? Today is the last day I can play as I'm leaving tommorow so if there's nothing, can you just spoil me then, it's really no big deal lol

EDIT: Okay, I quit lol I've tried way too many times now. Could you send me a link to a save file that goes right past that point?

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Okay, I'm working on Day 4 now.
That should take long, since I've to create some more picture...
Day 4 is a sort of "Crossing the Rubicon" in Tryadine Effect, so I have to care about every detail.
With Day 4, Chapter 1 will be finally completed.
However I've some problem in fixing dialogues, since I have a discrete English grammar knowledge but I almost lack vocabulary/common phrases experience (I've never talked with a native speaker).
I'd be really pleased if someone could make a Day 3 dialogue review

Anyway, someone mentioned dialogues cut by the message windows.
I've found out this is a problem which occurs only in Windows 7 or 8. Windows XP users haven't found that glitch.
I don't know how to fix it, the only idea I have is to rewrite some dialogues to fit the boxes, but I don't know which.

Apart from tileset issues and grammar check, the Demo should work fine. There are two known bugs, however:

1. If your item bag contains both armors and weapons (i.e. you've unequipped your characters' armors or you've acquired a third weapon for Veckert) don't open the battle items section while in the menu:
your game will freeze and return an error. I've still fixed it, but never uploaded the new demo (it's just a minor issue; you can check equipment from equip scene, there's no need to check it in the item scene ATM);

2. When you call for reinforcements in Day 3, never change policeman's weapon with V or B commands:
your game will freeze and return an error. Fixed, but not in this demo.

3. If one of your chars die in battle, the screen will remain in balck&white after that battle. Just exit from the room and return back to restore the usual screen colour. Fixed, but not in this demo.

As regards commands... I've listed them in the .txt which comes with the Demo. Anyway...

Move:
WASD or directional arrows;
Switch weapons in battle/Characters in Map:
V or B key
Select/Confirm:
Enter, Space or C key
Exit/Cancel:
Esc or X key;
Menu help / Torch ON-OFF:
Z Key;

Jens

This post has been edited by Jens of Zanicuud: Jul 14 2012, 01:35 AM

[Jens of Zanicuud]

I'm gonna release Chapter 1 (that is the story from Day 1 to Day 4 included) new Demo.

DEMO::CHAPTER 1

I'm waiting for some feedback, since I worked really hard on it
I hope you'll enjoy the game.

>What's new:

>New Day to play with three different paths, according to the hunter chosen;;
>New battle HUD / new HUD implemented;
>Escape mechanics implemented;
>Bugs and glitches fixed.

This is Chapter 1 end, from next Demo Chapter 2 will begin.

Again, I apologise for my far from perfect English, but I'm trying improving it little by little

Jens

EDIT: Demo released
Just check the first post on my topic or dowload it from this post.

Jens

This post has been edited by Jens of Zanicuud: Aug 8 2012, 01:43 AM

[3rr3]

Yeah finally I can play another Day in Tryadine Effect I'll reply soon!!

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Thanks, 3rr3, I was looking forward to someone testing it
I need even more feedback if possible...

Any bug&glitches /grammar check/ gameplay report would be really precious
If anyone finds something wrong, just reply on this topic.
If anyone has any comment on Day 4, just let me know

Jens

EDIT:
I've found a bug in the Demo. In Day 4, for now don't select Laese as third party member, since the escape engine was glitched by a new Input module script I put into the project. I'll fix the problem ASAP.
Eric's and Cybil's paths should be bugfree, though.
From Day 1 to the hunter choice there should be no problems, so if you have donwloaded it yet, just play it and wait for the fix to use Laese...

EDIT:
Fixed. New link:
TE: Chapter 1 Demo
If anyone find anything wrong, please report it to me.


This post has been edited by Jens of Zanicuud: Aug 8 2012, 01:48 AM

[Clord]

Interesting looking game but isn't 99% of world population being drug addicts a bit overkill? In a such situation you would expect that large part of the world's population has already died off because of some drug. It would be more believable if it was drug which didn't harm so fast or almost at all.

This post has been edited by Clord: Aug 8 2012, 07:05 AM

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Interesting looking game but isn't 99% of world population being drug addicts a bit overkill? In a such situation you would expect that large part of the world's population has already died off because of some drug. It would be more believable if it was drug which didn't harm so fast or almost at all.

That is exactly what Tryadine is.
Tryadine has no side effects. Simply, if you don't take it for a certain period of time, you die.
Tryadine addiction is exactly that. People who can't assume Tryadine for more than five days are in life danger.
99% of theliving population is Tryadine addicted. I haven't specified how many human beings are living on the Earth, in my game.
However, Tryadine is easily found in [CREATURES]' blood and [CREATURES] are damn fast reproducing, so there's a sort of equilibrium.

I'm sorry not having said this in the main topic, but I thought it was better leaving the player with that question.

BTW, why don't you try the Demo? Maybe you could find the answer you were looking for...

Jens

This post has been edited by Jens of Zanicuud: Aug 10 2012, 01:56 AM

[Clord]

Menu options under Items and entering to battles causes game to crash. Even during usage of compatibility modes. I even tried to re-install. Other than that it is plagued by grammatical mistakes, but that does not bother me and you even noted that those are there.

Mummy -> Mommy.



Also having robot basically as your chief on the crime scene. Is funny.

This post has been edited by Clord: Aug 11 2012, 04:34 AM

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Menu options under Items and entering to battles causes game to crash. Even during usage of compatibility modes. I even tried to re-install. Other than that it is plagued by grammatical mistakes, but that does not bother me and you even noted that those are there.

Mummy -> Mommy.

Also having robot basically as your chief on the crime scene. Is funny.

Never found this error 0.o
I've never experienced it before... neither me nor any of my bet testers 0.o

As regards grammar, you're right, but remember I'm not English and I'm constantly improving my language.
You shouldn't see my first demo, then - you can imagine how many spelling mistakes...

I'm truly sorry.

What kind of error do you find when starting battles? The exact same you mentioned before?
I'll try fixing it, then.

Thanks for debugging

Jens

This post has been edited by Jens of Zanicuud: Aug 11 2012, 05:43 AM

[Clord]

Menu options under Items and entering to battles causes game to crash. Even during usage of compatibility modes. I even tried to re-install. Other than that it is plagued by grammatical mistakes, but that does not bother me and you even noted that those are there.

Mummy -> Mommy.

Also having robot basically as your chief on the crime scene. Is funny.

Never found this error 0.o
I've never experienced it before... neither me nor any of my bet testers 0.o

As regards grammar, you're right, but remember I'm not English and I'm constantly improving my language.
You shouldn't see my first demo, then - you can imagine how many spelling mistakes...

I'm truly sorry.

What kind of error do you find when starting battles? The exact same you mentioned before?
I'll try fixing it, then.

Thanks for debugging

Jens

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Okay, I've got it.

I couldn't find those errors before... because they occur only if you start a new game (I continued from a save file).
I'll fix it ASAP. This evening (GMT + 1) I'll post the fixed demo.

Thanks a lot, Clord, you actually saved me

Jens

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Fixed. New link:

REMOVED! SEE MAIN PAGE!

Jens

This post has been edited by Jens of Zanicuud: Aug 14 2012, 12:32 PM

[Clord]

Fixed. New link:

DEMO::CHAPTER 1

Jens

Excellent.

[The Law G14]

I’ll be writing a review (well, until I get too lazy lol) while I play through the game, giving my thoughts!

Whoa this is a cool introduction to Day 4! This newspaper and the messages popping up…I’m thinking this is all Veckert thinking while looking at the newspaper. WTF?! Veckert Rainer…the culprit?! What?! Oh…I misunderstood lol But I’m kinda confused…hm…suspended? Nice, we’re going to District 7, home! (I think lol? That’s where he was born correct?)

So I’m walking around trying to find Mie…Talk to Enzio and find out some good information on where to get Mie and also…my confusion is cleared up a bit, apparently Veckert has been suspended by Commander Keane. But why? Anyway, off to Moe’s Tavern.

I’m in the tavern and I see a girl named Cybil, and I’m thinking she’s gonna be important because she has her own face graphic lol! We start talking and she wants me to sign a paper to save this AI, much like Blame? I think that’s what’s up. I then go up to Moe and this guy is funny lol, but he talks about how Mie was in yesterday evening crying and hasn’t seen her since…well off to explore some more! As I’m about to leave, Cybil gives me some weird warning, now I’m getting scared lol.

I talk with some more civilians…like Geveree who apologizes for thinking Veckert was a traitor, he words his statements very nicely actually. I keep talking to more civilians and they’re all saying the same thing that they haven’t seen Mie since like yesterday. I think about going down the elevator...but I’m too scared lol…damnit looks like that’s the only option left…time to go to level -1. Oh, I just run into Kroemer and he won’t let me in…ok. So now I’ve run out of leads until I notice Julian walking around and he tells me to talk to some lady at the station! Well off I go!

So I meet this lady and I’m getting kinda creeped out lol. I let the cutscene play on…(Critique: I believe Veckert should face the lady after a little bit) Woops! Now I get a bug and I can’t move anymore! After the old lady leaves, I’m simply stuck!! Check it out man!

[Clord]

You can get stuck to second battle if you do too badly in the first one where you are still learning the "unique" combat system. Healing in-between the first and the second battles would do the trick and still show how to combat somewhat effectively against more than one foe. After few tries I resorted to Pistol (and I'm aware you can swap your weapons if some strange reason other weapon offers something better for the situation at the hand, but the fact that in the beginning Pistol is superior weapon, there is no really point in that either) and finally passed that encounter. After I got second party member and actually items to reduce pain, combat became much easier.

This post has been edited by Clord: Aug 13 2012, 11:21 PM

[Jens of Zanicuud]

So I meet this lady and I’m getting kinda creeped out lol. I let the cutscene play on…(Critique: I believe Veckert should face the lady after a little bit) Woops! Now I get a bug and I can’t move anymore! After the old lady leaves, I’m simply stuck!! Check it out man!

What do you intend with "a little bit"? I'm not understanding, sorry, that's because my English is not good enough...
Anyway, I'll check it. You are telling me the bug is at the Railway Station, right?
I'll fix it then.

Thanks, Law, your debug is always precious
BTW, I haven't found that damn bug.
I just wonder what the Hell is happened...

Exactly what kind of bug? I've played it again (and I made no modifications) and didn't get stuck. Veckert is able to move as always.
Can you send me a screen?
I really haven't any suggestion.

@Clord
Yes, I know, but think that I have already modified it to make it easier.
Anyway, the gun is great as the main weapon in the early encounters, while the knife has some different feature (e.g. blood skills the gun has not) which would become pretty useful in the next days. In addition, remember that a knife do much more damage if the enemy is gonna die.
BTW, I could really heal the player after the first fight... anyway, I knew that would be difficult, but I never thought it could be so much difficult.
Thanks for the feedback

Jens

This post has been edited by Jens of Zanicuud: Aug 13 2012, 11:57 PM

[Clord]

Will play it more today, I'm on a second day/chapter. I like those voice effects in the certain places. Those voices sound a rather professionally made.

This post has been edited by Clord: Aug 14 2012, 01:28 AM

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Will play it more today, I'm on a second day/chapter. I like those voice effects in the certain places. Those voices sound a rather professionally made.

Thanks I'm actually a train-traveler-for-study, so I spend hours in train stations and this is why I decided to add a touch of realism to those maps.

I've not found the bug Law found before, so I can't understand if that is only his version's fault or this is actually a bug I'm not able to find.
If anyone else remains stuck into Day 4, please, PM me or reply.
In the worst case, just send me your save file and I'll fix it.

Jens

[The Law G14]

Sorry Jens, that was a mistake on my part, no bug. Well, actually if you keep holding down the UP when walking into the trainstation I think that's how the bug happens...I'm not sure though. Anyway...


Alright, so with that false “bug� out of the way, I go onto Yanette’s house so I can find Mie. I go inside the house…and nice, a picture cutscene! You’re really good at these man! (Grammatical Error: Veckert says “You are twentysix years…� it should be “You are twenty six years…� Looks like we also get more background knowledge on Veckert’s past, such as his father committing suicide due to Veckert…hm…I think I have a good feeling why lol. Oh look, Mie gives me this remote control thing that I can use for that guy at Floor -1. But I don’t really wanna go down there lol…

Alright, I’m inside the door that was blocked like Kroemer, time to explore and put my torch on! So Kromer gives me the permit after I open that door and I prepare to move forward. Hm…three more doors in the next room, with two of them being accessible…Bottom left is just a bunch of barrels…top right must be the right room. I keep moving down this corridor with this weird elevator until I make it to another room that’s kind of weird I guess. I look around and I find a letter to Eni. Lol, Windows 7 an old operating system? How far is this into the future lol? Anyway, I decided to go around the whole place to figure out what to do next. Nice! After a bunch of walking I finally open up some random door with a code I found in that letter. Anyway, I find report number 2 in that complex place. Oh cool! I start controlling the robot lol Now, it’s asking for an activation code…hm…let me think…ah got it! Time to try out that elevator!

Well that wasn’t the right thing to do, so I look around until I get to a room with a computer and a cabinet type thing where you can type a code with three knobs. I’m completely lost lol! I’ll keep trying…Alright after a bunch of tries and ideas, I’ll take a break…my brain hurts lol