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> What is your favorite intro/opening of an rpg? Why?
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post Oct 1 2012, 01:56 PM
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So I am making a game and I'm trying to figure out what is the best way to catch someone's attention and keep it...instead of turning them off to the game. As we all know, there is about a 30 second - 2 minute window where we have to spark enough interest in the player so that they don't feel that they've wasted their time downloading your game and just uninstall it. With that in mind, a strong interesting intro/opening is almost as important as the rest of your game...in my opinion, anyway. The first one for me that comes to mind is Final Fantasy 7. You don't get a long winded introduction to the lore of the world, just a giant impressive pane of the city + epic music which leads into a mission where a group of people are trying to bomb a reactor. You actually have a battle within seconds of starting the game and before you know it you are hooked in.

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post Oct 2 2012, 12:48 AM
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I always liked Final Fantasy 9's introduction. When I originally played, it made me curious about the characters and the setting, and then looking back on it later I felt like it was a good "breather" from a game that is actually pretty complex and heavy. It was light-hearted, fun, and interesting, and I thought that was a great way to pique interest without letting you know how serious the game got later.

To me personally, I generally like to have a ton of character exposition and dialogue, because in a game everything is about the characters. As long as it isn't presented as a hour-long tutorial like KH2...


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post Oct 2 2012, 07:08 AM
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I agree with FF7, but I also liked The World Ends With You intro.
Neku Sakuraba finds himself lying on a scramble crossing. Neither other people can see him, nor he can remember anything but his name.
Suddenly, strange monster appear from nothing and attack him.
The intro is almost... strange. It's something which got stuck in my mind.

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post Oct 2 2012, 09:38 AM
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In my opinion the best opening is the video of FF8: Seifer and Squall struggles in a deadly battle, pursued by thir pride.
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I gotta say FF6 with Terra on the mountain and then that cool march into town while riding the magic armors!


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post Oct 2 2012, 01:37 PM
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My favorite game opening has to be between Final Fantasy IX, Final Fantasy XII, or Fable II.


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Bioshock. The first one, amidst all the confusion and horror you are introduced to a beautiful landscape and a forgotten city. You are also quickly introduced to the political intrigue and insanity that has run rampant in the city. It's just so.....inspiring.


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post Oct 2 2012, 11:28 PM
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FFVIII intro is quite good. It even foreshadows the fact that Seifer becomes to be one of the villains of the story.


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post Oct 3 2012, 01:09 AM
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FFVII Bombing Mission for an RPG opening, definitely. I tend to find openings that explain the story to you a bit boring. I don't want to have to listen to or read a large narative explaining the history of the world, describing the characters, or what have you. That sort of thing can easilly be drawn out as the game progresses. I also hate games that force you through a tutorial at the start (Like FFXII). I get that it is supposed to make the player familiar with any new features and controls and all, but things like that should be kept as an optional feature. With a game, all I want to do is get in the action.

For games in general, I think one of my favourite openings is the opening for Batman Arkham Asylum. It was amazingly well-written, and I loved the tension it built up to the moment Joker breaks free. And when they introduced Killer Croc during that scene, I swear it made my hair stand on end.


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post Oct 3 2012, 02:31 PM
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Where'd you get that 2 minute window from? Personally, I think intros go by too fast and don't explain enough, leaving the viewer bored not from laggy action, but rather from lack of connection with the plot and characters. Consider KH2 which had nearly two hours of intro (or longer if you took your time on the sidequests, or sucked on some of the sections and actually lost). The game was so amazing you kept glued to the TV that entire time.

I typically undownload games for that very reason. They haven't spent enough time world-building, and I feel cheated. If you don't care about Azuryai because the person spent so much energy creating "that spark" that they didn't create substance, forget it.

Catching my attention? Make the prologue sequence voice acted, even if you have to recruit your friends to do it.

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post Oct 16 2012, 02:58 PM
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I see Opening of Chrono Cross is good
where it show some events will happen later in the game and forshadows later things and make you think how this or that event will happen and when.....
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post Oct 18 2012, 03:34 AM
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QUOTE (3rr3 @ Oct 2 2012, 01:38 PM) *
In my opinion the best opening is the video of FF8: Seifer and Squall struggles in a deadly battle, pursued by thir pride.
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And then it results in nothing what so ever, because that fight is explained to be them just training. And moreover the intro was confusing as fuck anyway, and that was just one tiny fragment of it surrounded by a metric ton of pointless love-story drama (You know how else you can turn off the player to an RPG? Giving them a protagonist they don't like who wields an incredibly impractical weapon, and then rewarding them with a love story that didn't so much develop as it did punch you in the face at mach 10).

If you wanted something jarring and confusing like THAT, then put it before the title screen. Yes, you can do that (In XP/VX/VXa, anyway).

And the intro doesn't end until you say it ends, take your time with it. Establish how the story is being told, from a first-person or third-person perspective, and keep it being told that way. Establish an immediate grounding plot in the opening scenes, against a panning background of some sort to emulate dramatic movement -- Make the game seem epic from the starting line, and follow every RPG from the Snes for clear examples. If we're meant to focus on a specific individual, or group of people, you can stop the camera from moving and focus on them. But if our focus is meant to be drawn to a much larger area, such as the overworld, a war, the insides of a shrine, or whatever; pan the screen so I can see it all, and so it feels like it means something. If you're afraid to do this because these scenes are small, then the player will KNOW they're small, and quickly run out of reason to care. (If your RPG doesn't involve saving the world, or a war, or something 'larger than life', then you could possibly redact this. But you still need something to keep our attention to the screen itself.)

But the worst things I've seen an RPG do is try to emulate regular speech in dialog form by adding tons of pauses in the dialog window itself, such as during ellipses, or between dialog windows themselves without any character movement in the background. You should think of the dialog windows more akin to a comic than an emulation of real life -- I should be able to read at my own pace, and skip through at my luxury. Of course, this applies to the entire game and not just the introduction, but if it's present in the intro I sure as heck aren't wasting my time beyond that.

Something else you can add in XP/VX/VXa is the ability to skip cutscenes outright. Adding designated labels to events when the cutscene ends, and adding a new button control in the script so the player can jump ahead if they've read the dialog before. Press once and an on-screen cue asks to confirm (just the word "Skip?" somewhere), and pressing again within the span of a few seconds will fade-to-black and drop you off at the end of the scene.

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A favorite opening scene of mine as of recently is the game Radiant Historia. It's established two warring countries have been fighting for a good while, and you in particular are a special agent for one of them. The dude in charge of you gives you a white book off-handedly 'for good luck', and assigned a couple of mercenaries under your command. You go from there to a field just south of town meant to meet with an enemy spy and return him to the city safely.

So you find the spy fleeing from the enemy, and you fend them off, and run off with the spy. Shortly afterward however, you run into a north/south crossroad, and archers from the south snipe and take out the spy. Mission fail, but the protagonist explains to the mercenaries that they need to at least get home to tell them of the news of the spy's downfall.

Southern road is blocked off, so they head north -- into an ambush. Your team is brutalized by 9999 damage attacks, and unlike other fake-gameovers, you're pretty fucked. Your protagonist jumps off a bridge and washes up downstream, badly beaten and on the verge of death.

Two children show to him, and tell him he's the holder of the "White Chronicle", a book whose pages are historybound and can govern the flow of time. Through their instruction, he uses it to travel back in time to a point immediately before the spy's assassination and prevents it, then opts to find a way past the southern blockade instead, getting himself and his allies and the spy out of the area and back to the city safely.

Also? They all act HUMAN, the protagonist is INTELLIGENT (After the mission he's visited by the two children again, and the first thing he asks is if he's able to travel through time at will. This is not the case, as he can only travel to important decisions in time), and HE SAVED THE LIVES OF EVERYONE INVOLVED IN HIS MISSION. Because HE cares, I care. Simple as that (also time-travel, but mostly the protagonist not being a douche).

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post Oct 18 2012, 09:22 PM
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(Worldwide accepted forum facts, and I agreed - Gamefaqs I believed)
About coolness :
FFVIII =
What do you expect, Squall and Seifer, though in the end it's just some kind training lol
Kingdom Heart II=
Utada Hikaru's voice! All the best of the best Disney's greatness, and the unknown main character...ahhh, greatness...

Overall :
FFXII =
The imaginary town, the coolest character died in the intro, the war between kingdoms, and The Lord of the RIngs world mixed into one superb intro..what else do you expect?!


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