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post Apr 12 2008, 05:41 PM
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QUOTE (kabuto202 @ Apr 12 2008, 05:02 AM) *
First of all I know what I'm talking about. Second of all, speaking from pure experience after having my machine for almost a year now, I have not once contracted any sort of malware, nor did any of the people that I ever spoke too. Disabling UAC does help because IT causes an extremely large amount of compatibility issues. For example when I first got this PC and I tried to run HL2 on it. It began screaming at me that I do not have admin rights even though I set it to run as administrator. When I turned it off it ran perfectly. Same problem my friend had with SCDA. Not only that but sometimes the message will never pop up at all when it's supposed to and it would make it impossible to install a certain software.


Well, Captain Computer-expert, for a start just because you talked to a few people DOESN'T MEAN IT'S TRUE FOR EVERYONE. Your using reasoning that I'd expect from a preschooler. And all I said was that UAC doesn't hinder performance; whether it hinders doing other tasks is up to you.

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As for vista fire wall, it takes up a very large amount of resources. Not only does it slow down web browsing, it kills your torrent rates and makes it almost impossible to play MMO's or just about any thing that requires constant connection to a server. If you had any experience with PCs you would know that the vista fire wall is extremely aggressive. This point you shan't argue with me about for you will lose.


Sources, please? Or are you just taking these facts out of your arse? I feel like I'm debating with Dr. Phil.

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As for the viruses. First of all the only one of the so called sources that you used that supported what you said in any way was from "Computer World" as site that has been know to use broken statistics to help the sale of their partners' products. Second of all I never said leave you computer completely defenseless. I said to use Avast and to surf with Fire Fox. That combined with vista's own structure make it almost IMMUNE to viruses.


http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/08/04/...aviruses_1.html
http://www.viruslist.com/en/analysis?pubid=204791916
http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2140815/...dos-replacement
http://www.downloadsquad.com/2007/03/16/ho...s-vista-really/

Again, you're posting more bluecarp. Vista is an improvement security-wise, but "immune" to most viruses? Not a chance. I can give you plenty more sources if you want. Anyway, do you have anything to back up your claims to Computer World? Or are you again, speaking carp.

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Also take NOTE: This tutorial was made to make vista COMPATIBLE with other application AND WAS NOT MADE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. So tdog please stay on topic next time.


I am staying completely on topic. Your giving hints and tips to community users which are absolute bollocks, and I'm trying to make you aware of where you are going wrong.
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post Apr 12 2008, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE (VxOsx @ Apr 12 2008, 11:05 AM) *
QUOTE (kabuto202 @ Apr 12 2008, 02:02 PM) *
First of all I know what I'm talking about. Second of all, speaking from pure experience after having my machine for almost a year now, I have not once contracted any sort of malware, nor did any of the people that I ever spoke too. Disabling UAC does help because IT causes an extremely large amount of compatibility issues. For example when I first got this PC and I tried to run HL2 on it. It began screaming at me that I do not have admin rights even though I set it to run as administrator. When I turned it off it ran perfectly. Same problem my friend had with SCDA. Not only that but sometimes the message will never pop up at all when it's supposed to and it would make it impossible to install a certain software.

As for vista fire wall, it takes up a very large amount of resources. Not only does it slow down web browsing, it kills your torrent rates and makes it almost impossible to play MMO's or just about any thing that requires constant connection to a server. If you had any experience with PCs you would know that the vista fire wall is extremely aggressive. This point you shan't argue with me about for you will lose.

As for the viruses. First of all the only one of the so called sources that you used that supported what you said in any way was from "Computer World" as site that has been know to use broken statistics to help the sale of their partners' products. Second of all I never said leave you computer completely defenseless. I said to use Avast and to surf with Fire Fox. That combined with vista's own structure make it almost IMMUNE to viruses.

Next time try to read the WHOLE post before making a pathetic attempt to prove meh wrong.

Also take NOTE: This tutorial was made to make vista COMPATIBLE with other application AND WAS NOT MADE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE. So tdog please stay on topic next time.


Try Right-clicking:
Properties>Security>Edit>Click on your User Account>Check Full Control
Properties>Security>Advanced>Owner>Edit>Choose your User Account as Owner.

You should now have full privileges on your Game/Application.

wink.gif If the check-boxes are greyed out, I do not know of any way so far of getting them Checkable. wink.gif

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and UAC makes no difference to Compatibility wink.gif
It just asks for permission to run the program wink.gif
As I just underlined it, I said that I did it.

@tdog: You know you are getting really annyoing. As I said before this tutorial was made to help compatibility AND NOTHING ELSE. So all that security bull crap doesn't matter, nor does hindering of speed. Because I have a life to get too, I'm not gonna spend my time trying to argue with you. I posted this tutorial to help people with compatibility issues to my knowlage, as I have never failed running any application on my Vista. However, if people like you will constantly make pointless attempt to prove me wrong, and make me waste my time responding to them I'm will begin questioning if trying to help the community is really worth being spammed by a n00b.

This is my last statement to you all your other posts will be ignored: I post my tutorials to help people with a specific problem, stop spamming me with your pointless arguments, you so far have portaited yourself as an annoying twelve year old child that spends his whole life on the internet because his mom beat him too hard and now he has no life. Leave me alone, if you find my tutorials so flawed then lets see you make a better one.


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post Apr 12 2008, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE (kabuto202 @ Apr 12 2008, 05:24 PM) *
@tdog: You know you are getting really annyoing. As I said before this tutorial was made to help compatibility AND NOTHING ELSE. So all that security bull crap doesn't matter, nor does hindering of speed. Because I have a life to get too, I'm not gonna spend my time trying to argue with you. I posted this tutorial to help people with compatibility issues to my knowlage, as I have never failed running any application on my Vista. However, if people like you will constantly make pointless attempt to prove me wrong, and make me waste my time responding to them I'm will begin questioning if trying to help the community is really worth being spammed by a n00b.

This is my last statement to you all your other posts will be ignored: I post my tutorials to help people with a specific problem, stop spamming me with your pointless arguments, you so far have portaited yourself as an annoying twelve year old child that spends his whole life on the internet because his mom beat him too hard and now he has no life. Leave me alone, if you find my tutorials so flawed then lets see you make a better one.


Feel free to go ahead and ignore me (as doing that would speak VOLUMES of maturity), but I'll continue. I am debating with you because what you're telling people to do in order to make things compatible with Vista is unneeded and potentially unsafe. I feel that this tutorial is unnecessary, inaccurate and potentially damaging.

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I posted this tutorial to help people with compatibility issues to my knowlage, as I have never failed running any application on my Vista


There's that reasoning again. "Always works for me" or "always works for a few friends" doesn't automatically mean "always works for everyone". The fact is, you're telling people to do stuff when you have no idea of what the consequences are. The rest of the tutorial is just common sense, and would only be useful to one who is extremely illiterate with computers.

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So all that security bull crap doesn't matter


Yeah, because that stupid "security" thing is pointless, and no one should care about it... I mean, who needs "security"? It's stupid, anyway.

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you so far have portaited yourself as an annoying twelve year old child that spends his whole life on the internet because his mom beat him too hard and now he has no life


I, for one, don't care for immature, pathetic insults. Resorting to insults just because you can't formulate a counter-argument is not only childish, it's pathetic.


Before making a tutorial, make sure you actually have "knowlage" of the subject. I fail to see how I have "portaited" myself as a twelve year old; in fact, I think you are doing a better job at that yourself.


Edit: Just to let you know, I do not have a personal vendetta against you, and I think it's good that you're trying to give back to the community. The only reason I am bothering you is because you can't seem to admit where you wrong. That fact that you make these claims with 100% certainty yet without any sources or information to back yourself up bugs me incredibly.

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QUOTE (kabuto202 @ Mar 24 2008, 09:01 AM) *
Many people have bought vista and are now disappointed that so many of their applications don't work on it. Then they begin flamming it because they lack the ability to make things work. Here is a few things you can do to make vista work for you.

Disable User Accounts:
1) Go to Control Panel
2) Click on user accounts
3) Click disable.
Why you should do this: This saves allot of time when your trying to open an application that has that "windows shield" in front of it. It also makes it so that you open everything as an administrator.

Update Vista:
1) Go to control panel.
2) Click on vista updates
3) Select the updates you want and click ok.
Why you should do this: Microsoft is constantly adding compatibility updates. Why not?

Disable Vista fire wall:
1) Go to Control Panel
2) Click on fire wall
3) Click on disable.
Why you should do it: Vista's fire wall is extremely aggressive. While it doesn't do any thing useful (Since there are almost no compatible viruses with vista) it really kills your compatibility and speed of your pc. If your afraid of viruses install Avast (Free software.)

Run XP application in compatibility mode:
1) Right click on the application.
2) Click on properties.
3) Click on compatibility
4) Select XP service pack two.
5) Click ok
Why you should do it: It's vista's built in compatibility generator. USE IT!

Check Google for fixes on compatibility issues
1) Go on google.
2) Type in "[Name Of Application] Vista Issues"

I hope this tutorial helps!

OMG thank you so much! I disabled the UAC and it WORKED!!!! THANKS YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif biggrin.gif banana.gif thanks.gif
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I do agree that disabling the UAC would speed up Windows Vista, but it would make it easier to hack into as well. Having no UAC means that there is no User Authentification for any action, even those from outsiders. This would be an easy target for spyware etc.


ALSO, the whole virus issue:

The "Would you like to run this!?" 'stupid' pop-up thing has saved me from at least TWO viruses. Programs I did not run that were trying to run on my computer. So viruses can get on Windows Vista.


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post Oct 19 2009, 06:53 PM
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Hello everyone, I realize this thread is old but i must point out that Vista is like any other OS/Program it can get infected with viruses, just like XP, and even MAC's as much as people say they cant....the more security you have the harder it is for you to collect viruses but doesnt mean its immune....Disabling the UAC will mean windows does not need to check authorization every time you open a program of any kind, Yes it opens it to be easier infected but that doesn't mean its a bad thing...after all as i said doesn't matter if this is on it can still get infected...

I do not like Vista as much as i have to use it because it is a OS that Microsoft failed at copying MAC's secure server database systems, in short they wanted to make a secure OS and they didn't change the base layout of there programming from a XP style if that makes sense?

Disabling UAC means you just back it up with another security program...if someone gets hacked what would they want? anyone who is computer illiterate wont have anything the hacker wants...but if they were a programmer like myself then they might find something of use having said that if you know what your doing then your computer will be secure,

tdog your allegations that the UAC being turned off i a bad thing is a load of crap...Vista's firewall does not even do its damn job, turn em both off and use third party programs to do the work windows should have the ability to do, i guarantee you now that you turn those 2 options off and get 2 secure programs like Avira Anti Vir and Super Anti spyware free versions funny enough to better then advast, avg, norton and even Vcom, and whats better...there free! I've tested them on my own viruses and others i have found across the net and they are the best

Oh and tdog's snobby attitude needs to be rectified,

Nomad

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