Haemophages and other cutscenes..., (Need a feedback!!!) Options

[DementedCashew]

The haemophage reminds me of the Licker in the Resident Evil series. But the I like the first one better, it's bulkier and there's something about it I just can't explain that draws me to it.

[Jens of Zanicuud]

All right, so I see what you decided to do between the first and second image. The detail from the first would be great to keep, so I would recommend not blurring the entire image as the second image shows. It does need editing (first one), but I think it would be preferred to keep the detail. =]

I know, but I haven't a precise idea on what to do.
I'd like to preserve the details, but at the same time I'd like to make the background more visible.
As regards the background, I really prefer the second one, as regards details the first one.

If you have any suggestion...

@DementedCashew
Which image do you referred to? The Haemos or the robot cutscene?
It wasn't easy to understand from your post, sorry...

Jens

[X-M-O]

You would have to do a lot of editing to make it work properly, I'm not sure what else to tell you. =\
I can see that there is a lot of area that can be removed without ruining the details, but all I can say is that it just needs a lot of touching up here and there to get it to work properly without just blurring it.

[Jens of Zanicuud]

You would have to do a lot of editing to make it work properly, I'm not sure what else to tell you. =\
I can see that there is a lot of area that can be removed without ruining the details, but all I can say is that it just needs a lot of touching up here and there to get it to work properly without just blurring it.

This is version #3.
Unfortunately, I'm quite good at drawing but I lack some editing abilities...
Anyway, This should be the right compromise between #1 and #2...



Tell me what do you think about it...

Jens

[DementedCashew]

All right, so I see what you decided to do between the first and second image. The detail from the first would be great to keep, so I would recommend not blurring the entire image as the second image shows. It does need editing (first one), but I think it would be preferred to keep the detail. =]

I know, but I haven't a precise idea on what to do.
I'd like to preserve the details, but at the same time I'd like to make the background more visible.
As regards the background, I really prefer the second one, as regards details the first one.

If you have any suggestion...

@DementedCashew
Which image do you referred to? The Haemos or the robot cutscene?
It wasn't easy to understand from your post, sorry...

Jens

The Haemos.

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Okay, thanks everyone

This time, I need feedback onto two other cutscenes; the subject is VORS Blame again.

[Show/Hide] Cutscene #1

[Show/Hide] Cutscene #2

Thanks in advance,

Jens

[X-M-O]

Looks like it needs some touching up, but they are really neat ideas!

What program are you using to edit them?

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Looks like it needs some touching up, but they are really neat ideas!

What program are you using to edit them?

The old, good, free Paint.NET

Anyway, thanks for the comments. I needed ome feedback 'cause these three last scenes are the opening I planned for my game's Chapter 2 and I put lot of effort in them.

I just hope I have reached a decent quality...

Thanks anyone again, see you next picture

Jens

[bacon]

It looks like you are blurring/smearing the colors together. When you pain you shoudnt need to use those tools; a simple paint brush at 100% opacity will do the job better.

[Jens of Zanicuud]

It looks like you are blurring/smearing the colors together. When you pain you shoudnt need to use those tools; a simple paint brush at 100% opacity will do the job better.

Okay, but how I'm supposed to do light effects without blurrying blacks&whites?
Can you give me some example, so I can understand?

Thanks for the advice, anyway

Jens

[bacon]

Sure. Here is a tutorial (that i didnt make)
http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm

it talks all about light and goes into things such as light affecting tones, color, etc
its actually a good tut for starting out how to paint

Light effects dont blur objects as there is nothing solid obstructing the vision. When you cast a light onto something, does it blur? No it gets brighter in the area the light is cast. Not only that, metallic objects never use blue methods for shading. Usually metallic objects reflect the world around them.

You should try and also touch up your drafts. The blurs go out of the edges (and again light and color dont work that way).

The issue is that you are trying to utilize special quick effect instead of actually drawing the effects themselves. You are at a place in your arting journey where you dont have a basic understanding of what exactly that effect should be used for, therefore you cant really succeed in taking that shortcut. And that is perfectly okay because it takes years to even be able to consider that.

Im not trying to be a dick and bring you down but everyone could use room for improvement. You are starting to do some really bad habits that I tend a lot of artists see to do. These shortcuts are going to hinder you in the long run because then you will have to unteach and reteach yourself to break them. Art takes time. There is no quick 1 hour method to doing it. And I understand you may be a hobbyist and you would rather pursue it your own way at your own leisure I get that but for the things you are trying to pursue there is a right way and there is a wrong way. Maybe just do some studying and look up some tutorials about basic coloring. And if you ever do decide to jump out of your comfort zone and do something totally radically cool I will always be here to comment even if im not a great artist myself~

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Yeah, you hit the center of the target.
I'm a hobbyist who is actually drawing almost every picture cutscene of his game and then colouring it with Paint.NET.

I use gaussian blur only because I wasn't able to find any other good method (I started using that program last November and haven't mastered it yet)... so thanks for your feedback

I'll try recolouring these pictures, since I've made a lot of effort to draw them and I want them to be wasted this way.
I'll surely check the tutorial, I've given a look to that and seems rather explanatory.

Thanks for everything,

Jens

[Strawberry]

I also use PAINT.net. D=

Are you like me and can't afford anything else? ._.

You know what I would try? GIMP! It has brushes and it's 100% free!

What I used to do before GIMP stopped working on my computer, was outline and simple color in PAINT.net, then shade in GIMP.

I used to blur like you do, but it's really hard to get everything to look right doing so. I would just go with simple coloring, like cell-shading or something. Anime coloring. o.o Or you could try coloring traditionally.

But enough about coloring! This is an idea a friend told I should do for my game, but I got too lazy to continue... I think I like your creature designs the best! ^___^

[Jens of Zanicuud]

Okay, I'm in big troubles.
I truly desire to learn manga drawing, but I really have zero spare time left.

I've succeeded in drawing this:



but... I'm not satisfied, I don't know why... it's too far from my concept of manga (I mean... almost realistic style, Deathnote-like to be precise, not chibi)... but I can't understand what's wrong. Maybe the ink style? The colours?

Any suggestions/ideas?

I used to blur like you do, but it's really hard to get everything to look right doing so. I would just go with simple coloring, like cell-shading or something. Anime coloring. o.o Or you could try coloring traditionally.

I really don't know where to start.

Thanks in advance,

è

Jens

P.S. I can't reveal for what game this image is. It's actually top secret

[Magical_RuNE_Kni...]

Well.. it kinda depends on what u mean by manga?
Like, there're many different styles; is there a particular style or way that u like? Like u want something more chibi/cute?

i draw manga, but i don't think it always looks very chibi. ( -D-)/ haha

...
i think it might know what u are meaning though. i think... u prolly want to reduce the amount of wrinkles of the face.
Also maybe make the eyes a little more abstract and define the femininity of them. Like, emphasize the eyelashes and curvature of the eyes, and also maybe try to draw with a light, delicate hand.
Here, maybe this will help? i hope u don't mind me drawing over her face..." :

[Show/Hide] i tried to keep it very similar to the original.

Like i tried to make the top of the eye a bit darker. i also did not completely draw in all the lines. i hope u get the idea im trying to communicate... (-D- )\

Edit: Erp, wait, this sounds bad, but... er, the picture is female correct...? (>-<)

This post has been edited by Magical_RuNE_Knight2001: Nov 2 2012, 02:13 PM

[Shaddow]

Actually I think that is his Main Character who is a guy XD

[Jens of Zanicuud]

@Shadd

SHE was a FEMALE, not a GUY. And I can't reveal what project does this belong to, not yet
I didn't think I was sooo bad...

@Rune

Thanks a lot
Well, you surely gave me a good idea My second problem is... that I'm not able to colour it as I wish.
Any suggestions?

Jens

[Shaddow]

My mistake, I thought this was the main character from Tyradine Effect, the blue hair threw me off.

[Jens of Zanicuud]

No need to apologize

I mainly used this topic to Tryadine Effect related pictures, so you are excused...

Now I need some colouring help...

Jens

[Homunculus]

O: I like where these are all going Your creatures are especially boss!

What program do you use to color??? There are a few out there that are pretty good, but I recommend downloading Paint Tool Sai (You'll need to look for the english version)

The main reason I state this is because I saw blurring mentioned. I used to use blurring a lot in order to make my colors blend and fit together smoothly. Paint Tool Sai has two brushes, the paint brush and the watercolor brush, that one can naturally blend with as your coloring they work very much like actual paint. Do you use a tablet or a mouse to color?