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Yuu-Mon Musuedo
post Jun 22 2012, 03:57 PM
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Okay, I been thinking how I will make my main character have a relationship with the second character that is very important as much as the main protagonist. I want them to have a very close relationship, but I don't know if people would like some of the relationship ideals I came up with.

Let me try to give you all the view of the setting to help first. The setting is modern day Japan in Yokohama. They are two females high school students. The main protagonist, a American, had a painful past that resulted in her being a mute. She is cheerful and happy. The second character who is Japanese, is a cool headed, calm and a collected type. They both open up when together.

Main protagonist: Everlyse

Second main protagonist: Noriko

Relationship A - Everlyse defeats Noriko. They both become very close friends, almost like blood sisters. They do everything together having the best time in their life. Funny part: Their so close, people think their lesbians which often leads to the people who thinks so with a punch to the jaw or other funny scenes.

(I feel this one is the clean version. Just in case people don't really like B and C.)


Relationship B
- Everlyse defeats Noriko. Noriko falls in love despite their same gender. Noriko becomes happy and shy around Everlyse. Later on in the story. Everlyse feels the same and build a strong relationship. Funny part: Noriko really loves Everlyse and is often jealous. Leading to funny scenes.

(I feel if I can write them just as good as a boy and girl couple. People wouldn't mind, as long as I don't make it seem like lesbian couples are a joke or something to look at for men.)

Relationship C - Everlyse defeats Noriko. Noriko falls in love despite their same gender and steals Everlyse's first kiss. Resulting in Everlyse rejecting her. Funny part: Noriko tries to have Everlyse fall for her. Either Noriko gives up or they do fall in love depending on where I go with the writing.

(To be truthful, C will act like a anime almost. Nothing +15 of age rated though. There will be funny scenes that Noriko will do like taking pictures of Everlyse in "odd" poses while she in gym shorts. -Text mention-)


I'm afraid on how some people would react to the whole lesbian relationship because they may think: "Oh, a guy writing lesbians in his stories. He's just going to make them all sluts and do perverted things."

If you all think it may be a okay idea on the lesbian relationship. I promise I'll try to make it serious with no random out of the place perverted scenes. And because I'm trying to make a story that's both funny and serious when the time come, I figure I can balance the relationship.

For the more friendship. I'll do the same. You can never go wrong with the A options. But I want to know what you all think.


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The Huhja's martial arts club has now disbanded after a crushing defeat at their turfs.The school's morale quickly started disappearing... Till an quiet first year girl joins the school. This young, quiet, small girl may look weak and helpless, but her martial art style is unseen. With her help, Huhja High must revive the club, gain new allies, discover hidden fighting arts, restore the school's morale, take back their turfs, and defeat their powerful rivals.

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post Jun 22 2012, 05:04 PM
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I think don't compromise your art based on what people might think. If it's what you want to do, you should do it. Unless it's completely perverted, nothing is sacred in art. But for my tastes, I don't really want to objectify women. As long as you're not objectifying women in the process, you're sweet. Because women think different to men. It's not all about looks, but more about how much you value them and tell them that you love them. For men, it's more a, well, physical love. So don't confuse the two.


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post Jun 23 2012, 08:57 AM
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There is nothing wrong with a Gay/Lesbian relationship in games, but I can see your concerns, as thatbennyguy said above, as long as you don't start objectifying women, and just adding lots of random "softcore" that has no link the story and it has been placed in their obviously. Then it can cut away from the story and feel slightly more like a softcore porno that you'd see late at night happy.gif
but from the way you are portraying it, you seem to have a good balance. so don't worry about it. smile.gif


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post Jun 23 2012, 11:14 AM
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I think option C would be a very good idea. If you filled the story with intense and well-crafted, meaningful dialogue, people can only say so much. Me personally, I would love to see a good romance story between a same gender couple that focuses more on the love for one another, instead of focusing on the physicalities of the couple.


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post Jun 24 2012, 03:38 PM
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I too would like to see a same gender couples in games. Which is why two of my games has this. I just always been afraid some might hate it. Even when I'm doing two males. I thank you all that replied. It really helps a lot actually.


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The Huhja High School martial arts club's captain, known as one of the strongest martial artist captains has passed away last year. Prove of his death, and rumors about the ordinary club members leaving had surfaced to the other schools that are in rivalry to them. They begun taking up the Huhja's turfs and claiming to take over the school next.

The Huhja's martial arts club has now disbanded after a crushing defeat at their turfs.The school's morale quickly started disappearing... Till an quiet first year girl joins the school. This young, quiet, small girl may look weak and helpless, but her martial art style is unseen. With her help, Huhja High must revive the club, gain new allies, discover hidden fighting arts, restore the school's morale, take back their turfs, and defeat their powerful rivals.

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post Jul 11 2012, 07:47 AM
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I'd say B and C are great ideas because you'd be exploring relatively new territory. C sounds more interesting since there's conflict and tension. Can you let us know what your gameplay is going to be like? As in, will they fight as a team throughout the game or will you switch back and forth? If they are a team and you go with C, Noriko's unrequited love might affect their teamwork.

How do you plan on developing Everlyse's character if she is mute? How does she express being cheerful and happy? I like mute protagonists, but they tend to be blank slates.

Overall, I say just keep in mind that they are high school students, so they are more likely to struggle with their feelings and get teased by their peers. Don't go out of your way to paint a rosy, picturesque romance because you're worried about offending people - high school romances are often rocky and awkward.

The Sailor Moon manga/anime (the Japanese version, at least) has two lesbian protagonists who are in a relationship, Sailor Neptune and Sailor Uranus. I'd recommend watching episode 92 of the japanese version of Sailor Moon to see how it tastefully (and humorously) deals with sexuality. Also, during that whole season each of the other girls at some point develops a "girl-crush" on one of the lesbians. That series, I think, does an excellent job of exploring the thin line between physical and romantic love.




QUOTE (Yuu-Mon Musuedo @ Jun 22 2012, 07:57 PM) *
Okay, I been thinking how I will make my main character have a relationship with the second character that is very important as much as the main protagonist. I want them to have a very close relationship, but I don't know if people would like some of the relationship ideals I came up with.

Let me try to give you all the view of the setting to help first. The setting is modern day Japan in Yokohama. They are two females high school students. The main protagonist, a American, had a painful past that resulted in her being a mute. She is cheerful and happy. The second character who is Japanese, is a cool headed, calm and a collected type. They both open up when together.

Main protagonist: Everlyse

Second main protagonist: Noriko

Relationship A - Everlyse defeats Noriko. They both become very close friends, almost like blood sisters. They do everything together having the best time in their life. Funny part: Their so close, people think their lesbians which often leads to the people who thinks so with a punch to the jaw or other funny scenes.

(I feel this one is the clean version. Just in case people don't really like B and C.)


Relationship B
- Everlyse defeats Noriko. Noriko falls in love despite their same gender. Noriko becomes happy and shy around Everlyse. Later on in the story. Everlyse feels the same and build a strong relationship. Funny part: Noriko really loves Everlyse and is often jealous. Leading to funny scenes.

(I feel if I can write them just as good as a boy and girl couple. People wouldn't mind, as long as I don't make it seem like lesbian couples are a joke or something to look at for men.)

Relationship C - Everlyse defeats Noriko. Noriko falls in love despite their same gender and steals Everlyse's first kiss. Resulting in Everlyse rejecting her. Funny part: Noriko tries to have Everlyse fall for her. Either Noriko gives up or they do fall in love depending on where I go with the writing.

(To be truthful, C will act like a anime almost. Nothing +15 of age rated though. There will be funny scenes that Noriko will do like taking pictures of Everlyse in "odd" poses while she in gym shorts. -Text mention-)


I'm afraid on how some people would react to the whole lesbian relationship because they may think: "Oh, a guy writing lesbians in his stories. He's just going to make them all sluts and do perverted things."

If you all think it may be a okay idea on the lesbian relationship. I promise I'll try to make it serious with no random out of the place perverted scenes. And because I'm trying to make a story that's both funny and serious when the time come, I figure I can balance the relationship.

For the more friendship. I'll do the same. You can never go wrong with the A options. But I want to know what you all think.



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