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> one word you should know .... Nomanclater, will help with describing Nouns
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post Sep 6 2011, 07:08 PM
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Nomenclatureis a term that applies to either a list of names and/or terms, or to the system of principles, procedures and terms related to naming - which is the assigning of a word or phrase to a particular object or property.[1]The principles of naming vary from the relatively informal conventions of everyday speech to the internationally-agreed principles, rules and recommendations that govern the formation and use of the specialist terms used in scientific and other disciplines.

Naming "things" is a part of our general communication using words and language: it is an aspect of everyday taxonomy as we distinguish the objects of our experience, together with their similarities and differences, which we identify, name and classify. The use of names, as the many different kinds of nouns embedded in different languages, connects nomenclature to theoretical linguistics, while the way we mentally structure the world in relation to word meanings and experience relates to the philosophy of language


The scientific need for simple, stable and internationally-accepted systems for naming objects of the natural world has generated many formal nomenclatural systems. Probably the best known of these nomenclatural systems are the five codes of biological nomenclature that govern the Latinized scientific names of organisms

Onomastics and nomenclatureMain article: OnomasticsThe study of proper names is known as onomastics,[2]which has a wide-ranging scope encompassing all names, all languages, all geographical and cultural regions. The distinction between onomastics and nomenclature is not readily clear: onomastics is an unfamiliar discipline to most people and the use of nomenclature in an academic sense is also not commonly known. Although the two fields integrate, nomenclature concerns itself more with the rules and conventions that are used for the formation of names

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post Sep 6 2011, 07:16 PM
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The study of proper names is known as onomastics,[2]which has a wide-ranging scope encompassing all names, all languages, all geographical and cultural regions. The distinction between onomastics and nomenclature is not readily clear: onomastics is an unfamiliar discipline to most people and the use of nomenclature in an academic sense is also not commonly known. Although the two fields integrate, nomenclature concerns itself more with the rules and conventions that are used for the formation of names.

For more read the main artical at WikiPedia.com and search Nomanclater....... Start using them.....


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post Sep 6 2011, 07:17 PM
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.....what? What does nomanclature have to do with gaming? confused.gif
Ugh. Let's make this easier. This is how it works:
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Arthritis- arth/ritis
arth- (relating to joints)
-itis (conditions involving swelling)


therefore, arthritis is a swelling of the joints. sorcerer.gif

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post Sep 6 2011, 07:28 PM
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One has to Write for A game , do they not ?
while writing they have to name Nouns , NO ?
I am sure that : Onomastics , the study of proper naming has everything to do with Gaming ......

QUOTE (Alt_Jack @ Sep 6 2011, 08:17 PM) *
.....what? What does nomanclature have to do with gaming? confused.gif
Ugh. Let's make this easier. This is how it works:
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Arthritis- arth/ritis
arth- (relating to joints)
-itis (conditions involving swelling)


therefore, arthritis is a swelling of the joints. sorcerer.gif


The definition alone does not define the meaning of A word ......

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also the Nomanclature for swelling is Inflammation.... mage.gif

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post Sep 6 2011, 07:47 PM
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Onomastics are the study of proper names, namely their history/origin, etc. As such, I wonder how this can involve the game designing progress. When a game maker decides to use such conventions, they often use their imagination. This is a big difference from a study or science of names or naming. Likewise, in the game 'playing' process, the player does not spend time studying the names used, and thus it can't really apply to the 'finished product.'

Also, you can't necessarily 'use' nomenclature per se, as namonclature are the names used in a particular art. Maybe it's just me, but I'm not seeing the integration of either two of these in the game making process.

And please don't double post, we have an edit button for when you need to modify your post.


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the whole point of this post , is people can expand their vocab, and obtain insight for naming A Noun , more descriptively .


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I agree wholeheartedly with expanding one's vocabulary; but when it comes to more descriptively naming a noun, there's a thesaurus for that.


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true there is A Thesaurus ; Maybe it is because I am Pragmatic, and A Perfectionist I would include Onomastics as A criterion.......


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I see a double post up there, could you please wait 72 hours before posting twice in a row?
If you have anything to add before 72 hours you can always use the edit button smile.gif


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QUOTE (ipsissimus10 @ Sep 6 2011, 08:28 PM) *
One has to Write for A game , do they not ?
while writing they have to name Nouns , NO ?

No, they already have names. I'm still not sure what this is topic is actually about, beyond some superficial ranting.
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The definition alone does not define the meaning of A word ......

In science it does. That's how nomenclature works, especially in medicine. We learn the prefixes and suffixes and that gives us some idea of what the condition or part is.
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also the Nomanclature for swelling is Inflammation....

I know; I'm a second year med student. confused.gif


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Sir, for posting a topic about grammar, you aren't actually using it that well... misspelling nomenclature right off that bat is just a bad sign.

Anyway, are you posting this saying that game designers should take a Tolkien-like approach to naming their cities, people, etc, and develop an entire language? Because that's essentially crazy. Putting that much work into an un-professional game is just a bit too much, in my opinion.


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I agree with Donotfeedthemax- I don't see how copying a whole section of Wikipedia and posting it, then lecturing the forum on proper writing has anything to do with anything.

It doesn't actually seem like you yourself understand the concept of how prefixes and suffixes work in naming things. Especially after correcting someone on 'arthritis' when they were absolutely correct.

I want to be more direct though and ask what exactly you are even trying to say? I feel that if you want to present a holier-than-thou approach to posting, especially in something of this nature, you should at least be able to properly communicate your idea.


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fire 1, fire 2, fire 3 , fire 4 sounds like A good enough name for An Elemental Magic attack ...........................................


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QUOTE (ipsissimus10 @ Sep 8 2011, 05:24 PM) *
fire 1, fire 2, fire 3 , fire 4 sounds like A good enough name for An Elemental Magic attack ...........................................


Yeah.... You see, in the "real world" (I invite you to join us there some time) we use numbers to categorize things if there are more than one of them, to avoid confusion. It can also be used to indicate the strength or degree of something. Examples include:

C-4 explosive
Type II diabetes
12-guage shotgun
Rocky IV
Star Wars: Episode VI
Superbowl XXI
Grade II whiplash
G2 driver's license
Grade 4 education
Level 5
Act 3

As for RPG maker, the default names of the fire attacks in VX is, if I recall correctly: Fire, Fire II, Flame, Flame II
I curious as to what names you would give them, in order to categorize them. confused.gif

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I don't think that there is anything wrong at all with naming spells something like "Fire, Flame, Inferno" instead of "Fire, Fire 2, Fire 3" at all-- but I also don't think there's a problem with the alternative.

Sometimes naming spells with a different number makes the spell more accessible to the average player. I know that Fire 3 is better than Fire 2 without any knowledge of the game whatsoever (unless you made the game REALLY weird). But someone might not know that Inferno is better than Flame, as a counter example. You're basically saying "Fire Spell Level 2" as a way of denoting that you have progressed in your fire spell casting abilities.


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its still lame..... Also I will, have to Respectivley decline Your Invite to this place you call " THE REAL WORLD " . I heard it is A really bad Cliche ; Full of Robot Zomies , with Micro Oganisms planted in their ears that Manifests through their Entire Brain, Also I they have to Punch in to this BOX to stay Alive ! The worst part is , they even have to pay for these Organisms , and does not even guarantee This BOX , they speak of !!! .....

On A side note this discussion, is an Oxymora

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QUOTE (ipsissimus10 @ Sep 10 2011, 04:20 PM) *
its still lame.....

If you're criticizing people for pairing numbers with letters to indicate types or grades of attacks, you might want to show others that you can actually write properly yourself. Your sentence structure is on par with texting phrases like "B L8 4 dinR, K? ". You also miss-used the words cliche, invite, manifest and oxymora. confused.gif

Why hasn't this topic been shut down yet? dry.gif


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Nomenclature is a great word to know when it comes to naming . Thats the story. That is all. It is my opinion that; using cardinal numerals, to describe an Elements' Transformation, is not Creative.. This applies to many other names that could be more Innovative. Nomenclater by all means, is not the only way, though it is A way.. as far as my spelling goes... What ever ! I am not making A book Or teaching English .....

I stand crorceted for my msipsleling's .

also the use Of Manifest , it should be; mainifest their brain.. ?
Invite , invitation, naturally,
Oxymora is Plural so Oxymoron would be the term .
as for Cliche.....

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QUOTE (ipsissimus10 @ Sep 10 2011, 09:36 PM) *
Nomenclature is a great word to know when it comes to naming .


I think you're just mixing up nomenclature with having an expansive vocabulary and strong grasp of some language.

EDIT: it might be useful if you're coming up with creative names that reflect some characteristic of the idea, but it's not THAT important.

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